Glitches Call Reliability of Tesla Model S Into Question

2012TeslaModelS

Automatically extending door handles that don't extend, a multimedia screen that blanks out, a creaky roof, difficulties with the trunk latch. These are just some of the glitches with Tesla's long-range-electric luxury sedan, the Model S, that have resulted in backlash from Consumer Reports after initial praise of the vehicle, USA Today reported. We at Cars.com noted these and other quirks during our tests of the 2012 model. How might this affect the Model S' reliability ratings in the future? Get the full USA Today story here.

Cars.com photo by Evan Sears

Comments 

Jim

Was the Tesla responsible for the Tesla related house fire in Bedford New York on 7-26-14? Was there an electrical fire? Did the Tesla overload the house wiring? Was it the known faults in the Tesla charging system, that caused the fire? Tesla chargers allegedly have a software problem (glitch) that allows excessive current to flow. Allegedly Tesla software sometimes has a glitch that increases current when a fault is detected, instead of decreasing it. Nearly all of Tesla model Ss have been recalled for charger problems that are a fire hazard. The recall has not eliminated the fire hazards. Tesla charge connectors continue to melt and overheat.

Hopefully the fire department's investigation is made public on the Tesla related fire in Bedford New York. So far the information is sketchy and seems to be contradictory. A news report alleges that officials claim the fire might have started in the basement, another news report claims the fire started in a barbecue grill. Reports claim that the homeowner was away on vacation, that seems to make it unlikely that the source of the fire was a barbecue grill. Photographs show that the Tesla was plugged in. So if the fire did start in the basement like a news reported authorities claimed. It could be that the Tesla overloaded the house wiring.

Years ago safety advocates warned that lithium batteries were flammable, explosive and could emit toxic fumes; yet Tesla fan boys hyped the Tesla batteries as being safe. Tesla's have so many fires that they are nicknamed toasters

Recently in Palmdale, a Tesla and its driver killed 3 people and set their car on fire; yet Tesla fan boys are hyping the crash as an example that the Tesla is safe.

Recently another Tesla crashed in West Hollywood, broke in half, bursts into an inferno, exploded, sent flaming shrapnel through the neighborhood, and spewed toxic fumes killing the Tesla driver; yet Tesla fan boys hype the Tesla as being safe. The driver of the stolen Tesla that crashed, split in half, bursts into an inferno and exploded; allegedly has died 2 times. Allegedly he died the on July 4 when he stole and crashed the vehicle. Emergency responders resuscitated him. He died again on July 7. Yet Tesla fan boys have lied and hyped the Tesla crash as nonfatal and keep hyping the Tesla as safe. Photos seem to suggest that the Tesla driver's steering wheel airbag may have not deployed.

Most modern light poles are supposed to be breakaway to reduce the amount of damage & injury during a crash. The fact that the Tesla was ripped in half, suggests that Tesla has a structural weakness..

How was the car stolen? Was Tesla complacent, did they leave "keys" where they easily could be stolen? has Tesla skimped on safety by not keeping the "keys" in a lock box? Did the thieves exploit a security vulnerability in the Tesla model S. designs and/or in Tesla's lax procedures/policies?.

The high-speed Tesla stolen car chase put public safety at risk, was the high-speed chase really necessary? Wasn't GPS tracking activated in the car? If so; shouldn't have Tesla and law enforcement cooperated to intercept the stolen car instead of having a high-speed police chase?

If safety really was a top priority for Tesla, shouldn't Tesla have a remote shutdown feature in case a Tesla is stolen and/or involved in a high-speed chase? A remote shutdown command, could disable the drive train, and apply the parking brakes when the vehicle comes to a stop.

Tesla lithium drive batteries more easily catch fire and explode after being punctured, then gasoline tanks.. The Tesla is much like a Ford Pinto, yet Tesla is hyped as being safe. When only about 30,000 Tesla's were made, three of them caught on fire and/or exploded from being in accidents or only running over road debris.. When only 30,000 Ford Pintos were made how many of them have caught fire and/or exploded from being in accidents or running over road debris? In some respects the Tesla seems to be more dangerous than the Ford Pinto. How come Tesla is given favorable treatment?

Tesla's poorly designed charge connectors have overheated, melted and burned., Poor manufacturing and poor quality control contributed to the problems. A fire department ruled that a Tesla charger was a possible source of a garage fire in California. Yet Tesla fan boys hype the Tesla as being safe and try to scapegoat the problems on wall outlets and house wiring.

The software update that Tesla fan boys hyped as a "fix" for the universal mobile charger fire hazards, didn't stop the UMCs from overheating, melting and burning.

The recalled adapter, that Tesla fan boys hyped as not being a recall, still has not completely solved the problems.. There still has been UMCs that have been overheating and melting. Yet Tesla fan boys are hyping it as safe..

Allegedly Tesla has secret service bulletins on safety issues like faulty brakes., If safety really was a top priority for Tesla, shouldn't Tesla be transparent?. Shouldn't service bulletins, especially ones that are related to safety, be readily available to independent service shops, educators, owners, customers, prospective buyers & the general public?

Teslas have been suddenly shutting off leaving drivers and passengers dangerously stranded in traffic; much like GM's ignition switch problems; yet Tesla is hyped as being safe. how come Tesla is given favorable treatment?.

There was a Tesla related fire in a garage in Toronto. Allegedly the source of the fire was the Tesla. Is the fire department's investigation done?. If so, how come the findings aren't widely known? the government and Tesla were investigating the fire. How come more detailed facts and results seemingly haven't been disclosed yet? Is there a cover-up? Allegedly the Tesla wasn't even charging, so does Tesla have some other design flaw that is a fire hazard?

It looks like the steering wheel airbag didn't deploy in the first reported Tesla crash in China.

I suspect most of Tesla's drive unit problems are mostly related to noise, and I suspect most of them are not much of a safety hazard. However depending on type and severity of failure; it can leave Tesla owners dangerously stranded much like GM's faulty ignition problems. Think Tesla and Elon Musk might be dishonestly downplaying the possible consequences of the vibrating wires in the drive units as only being a noise problem; couldn't those wires short out and leave the Tesla and its occupants stranded? Could it wear out the installation and result in a short and possible fire?

Tesla and Elon Musk tout the Tesla has been quiet. However some of the drive unit problems, makes the Tesla sound like a Mack truck with a worn-out transmission in granny gear.

I think Tesla and Elon Musk are being misleading with the repair costs. IE claiming that the drive units can be fixed for less than a dollar of parts costs with wire ties and shims. There is more to making repairs than the costs of parts. What will the labor costs be to replace the parts? Hundreds or thousands of dollars?

I think Tesla fan boys are being less than honest when they hype Tesla safety. it is sickening to see Tesla fan boys exploiting tragedies to shill for Tesla by spamming lies and hyping Tesla safety.

Teslas are known to be vulnerable to hacks.

Weapon

Oh jim, how I missed your BS. You still owe a public apology for the last time you were caught lying. You promised a public apology!

Since all your stuff has already been proven as lies, let me add one more thing to the lie list for you.

Here is the report for the Bedford fire:

"The short was caused due to age and vibration which caused the wiring to wear and then short out against the box, Wagner added."

The Tesla and the Minicooper that they had were parked in the drive way and not plugged in.

Vik

Jim- I must commend you on your ability to:

1. Repeat the same phrases tirelessly

2. Make many claims with ZERO sources referenced

3. Pose rhetorical questions to imply fault (e.g., Tesla vs. Pinto. Where are the numbers? The Pinto had about 30 fire-related deaths out of about 3M vehicles sold, not 30 fires, BTW). http://www.perishablepundit.net/docs/The_Myth_of_the_Ford_Pinto_Case.pdf

This is too easy, so I'll just point out a few:

- "Tesla lithium drive batteries more easily catch fire and explode after being punctured, then gasoline tanks".

Are they? Where is your supporting data/reference?

- "Recently another Tesla crashed in West Hollywood, [...] and spewed toxic fumes killing the Tesla driver"

Source?


- "The high-speed Tesla stolen car chase put public safety at risk, was the high-speed chase really necessary? "

This is a law enforcement question, not a Tesla one.


- I can't even count the # of "allegedly"'s in your post. Restate them as reputable-source-backed facts and maybe you'l get some people to listen to you!

Terence Clark

Oh, so Jim is just spamming this around to any site about Tesla, then. You know, Jim, I actually found this article looking for evidence in your noted house fire incident. It generally doesn't look good when the only supporting information for a claim is the same person making that claim elsewhere.

Vik

I just wonder what is Jim's angle on this?

Disgruntled Tesla employee? If his completely laughable post is any indication, Jim is not smart enough to be hired as an employee in the first place.

Competitor shill? Not a big enough market share for anyone to care yet.

Oil company shill? Again, small fish vs. Toyota.

Can't afford a Tesla? Hmmm..... ;)

dlb

He seems to be pretty determined, since he wastes his time writing a whole epistle.

Vik

I got it- a desperate stock shorter.

ejchi

I could not read and understand the article, as I was thing about NWA.
ejchi

Happy Tesla owner here; have owned mine since June 2013...no door handle problems, no problems, period. Oh...I guess the screen dimmer could make the screen a little dimmer; but eventually the computer boys at headquarters will get the message, and they'll fix it.

Great car; keep talking, Jim; that'll keep the stock low so more people can buy before it doubles and triples....soon. My guess is you own stock in a fossil fuel company or are a big stock holder in a gas guzzler company.

Eugene Robison

I wouldn't rush to judgement about how a Tesla car will fold on impact. Built light weight is the only way to meet the efficientcies needed to perform as well as they do. As far as splitting in two, what could you expect after impact like that. I would like to see more repair procedures available for the smaller fender benders that will happen down the road.

Post a Comment 

Please remember a few rules before posting comments:

  • If you don't want people to see your email address, simply type in the URL of your favorite website or leave the field empty.
  • Do not mention specific car dealers by name. Feel free to mention your city, state and brand.
  • Try to be civil to your fellow blog readers. This blog is not a fan or enthusiast forum, it is meant to help people during the car-buying process and during the time between purchases, so shoppers can keep a pulse on the market.
  • Stay on topic. We want to hear your opinions and thoughts, but please only comment about the specified topic in the blog post.
view posting rules

If you have a TypeKey or TypePad account, please Sign In

Search Results

KickingTires Search Results for

Search Kicking Tires

KickingTires iPhone App
Ask.cars.com