Are Americans Starting to Embrace Diesel?

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According to a new study, diesel-powered vehicles sales are up, indicating that Americans might finally be warming to them. A joint report from Hybridcars.com and research company Baum and Associates show sales have been steadily trending upward for the last several months.

Sales were up in January, February and March of this year. Compared to last year's numbers, January sales were up 21.2%, February saw a 42.9% increase and March sales increased 39.6%.

"This 35 percent increase in clean-diesel auto sales during the first quarter of 2012 is a continuation of the 27 percent sales jump in 2011," Allen Schaeffer, executive director of the Diesel Technology Forum, said in a statement.

The study's authors expect diesel auto sales to continue to increase as several new diesel vehicles (Chevrolet Cruze) hit the U.S. market during the next year and old ones return to automakers' lineups after a hiatus (Beetle). They include:

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Hello Jennifer Geiger,
yes, thats true diesel-powered vehicles sales are really up because the rates of diesel are less than the petrol. For that reason in the survey the diesel-powered vehicles sales are up.

Transverse

I wouldn't to take a road trip not knowing if I could find a station with diesel once I get out of town. The so-called clean diesel requires that you carry a tank of urea that is sprayed into the exhaust - Mercedes says it costs $1,500 per 100,000 miles for the stuff. If you drive in cold weather the fuel will solidify unless you buy expensive fuel additives. Diesel engines are expensive to build and expensive to fix and the fuel is more costly than gasoline. You'll end up losing money if you buy a diesel car.

4$Only

They are funner to drive than gasoline cars!Much more low end torque.

Max Reid

Worldwide,
28 million barrels/day of Gasoline is consumed
31 million barrels/day of Diesel/Jet fuel is consumed.

With more heavy crude oil being available, Diesel will be available in plenty.

So better for some to have Diesel vehicles as well.

Ivan

Transverse, your first point is completely irrelevant. Diesel may be slightly rarer, but you seem to imply that truck drivers, with their huge diesel engines, should be terrified to leave the gas station. And the urea is an unfortunate charge, but it is not very hard to replace, and most manufacturers cover it with warranty. Modern diesels have systems in place to counter freezing - it is no longer a problem. Diesel engines may be more expensive, I have no idea, but they are made stronger to withstand the higher compression of diesel fuel, and generally actually last longer than gas engines. Diesel fuel is more expensive, but the mileage gains are quite significant. My mom's TDI Golf, costing about 4 thousand more than the base gas version, albeit with a few more standard features. The gasoline version gets 24/31 mpg, and the diesel doing 30/42 mpg. I'd say, that after the usual 10+ years my parents keep their cars, it will pay itself off, considering diesel is perhaps 10, 20 more cents per gallon. She can literally drive 500 miles on a tank easily. Sources - wikipedia, cars.com, personal experience.

Ivan

Oh, and with 230+ ftlb of torque, and a harder suspension, it is much more fun as well.

Parrots

If diesels are as bad as Traverse makes them to be, then why do Europeans adore them so much?
Diesel gas stations are more common than you would think. Besides, diesels can easily get over 600 miles a tank. Or even 700 miles in the case of the Passat TDI.

Transverse

Ivan,
If you only follow interstate highways you are correct there are lots of diesel truck stops where you'll wait in line for ten minutes stuck between two big rigs to fill up. No thanks. What about the trips where you go off the interstates into some of the really nice areas of our country. It is not only possible but likely that you'll be worrying about where to get diesel fuel. No way a diesel car is more fun than a smooth running, high revving gasoline car, unless you like driving tractors. The urea additive you have to add to clean the emissions erases any savings from mileage gains, as does the much higher price per gallon for diesel fuel. And yes cold weather still causes problems for diesel fuel, which as an organic product can also grow algae and clog your injectors unless you spend more money for more fuel additives. Diesel is the preferred power for trucks, but the added expense for the car, the additives, the fuel and yes the maintenance more than erases any savings from the okay mileage diesel cars get. A Prius gets nearly double the mileage of a TDI in the city. Wise up man and forget the stinking oil burners.

Ste (The Original S.G.)

Sure diesel is more expensive than gas, but only ever so slightly. Diesel runs here at what midgrade is, about 7-12 cents more than regular. That seems very reasonable giving the added mpg. Yes, diesel isn't as readily available as gas, but I highly doubt you'd be stranded or unable to find a station. Smart phones make finding ANYTHING a pinch, including diesel. Also, think about resale, diesel counterparts sell for thousands more than their gasoline counterparts. So once it's time to sell your "oil burner", the original premium you paid for the diesel engine will negate and possibly net you cash. Sure, a Prius gets better mpg in the city, but a Jetta TDI can match it on the highway. Plus, I'd be willing to bet the power output is better in the Jetta. Also, what are you to do when the battery becomes in-op? That right there is hefty money to replace, moreso than regular maintenance on a diesel. Can't afford to replace it? well, your carrying some good dead weight in your car then also. Sure, there are warranties, but when do they ever seem to be still in effect when something goes bad? The power of the batteries won't be at 100% forever, but slowly wane over time. So yes, diesels have their downfalls, but so do their gas, electric and hybrid counterparts.

allisonadams


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WTF

Transverse,

Your mindset is outdated. Go drive a modern diesel and compare to a tractor. Keep an eye out for diesel pumps at gas stations and see how many stations don't offer diesel. See how trucks have their own pumps. See how you don't have to wait ten minutes to fill up. Go read about the Jetta TDI's and learn that they don't require urea. Go and ask actual owners in the north how many times they've had a problem with fuel gelling. Go and ask actual owners how many times they've had algae problems.

Vulpine

I can't believe that any analysis site is only now asking, "are Americans finally warming to diesel?" I'll grant that diesel isn't the most popular power plant available, but that's mostly because of the perception that diesel is weak and slow, which modern diesel cars and trucks are proving is simply not the case. Volkswagen has proven for over 10 years that the small turbo diesel is quite powerful for everyday driving and every one of the Big Three's truck lines has at least one huge turbo diesel listed as their strongest engine. What's really funny is that on Kicking Tires' sister site, PickupTrucks.com, users are practically begging for smaller sized diesels for use in entry level trucks and even diesel-powered compact trucks and have been for years.

Are we warming up to diesel? The better question is why haven't the automakers already added diesel to their lineups?

Vulpine

Traverse, above, emphasizes my point exactly; he has no concept of how readily available diesel fuel is or of the cost-saving benefits.

Diesel engines are far simpler than gasoline engines. They don't need that electronic ignition computer because they simply do not use spark plugs. Nor do they need most of the other complex systems to handle pollution control which are part of the reason gas mileage stagnated while gasoline engines became more efficient and powerful. Volkswagen's TDI engines are a proven technology. Some models have demonstrated 50+mpg in everyday commuting where, admittedly, most of the miles driven are on expressways. Even assuming everything else equal with diesel averaging a mere 20 cents per gallon more expensive, a Golf TDI can manage 500 miles on a tank of fuel where the gas engine just makes 400. Considering the current high price of fuel across the board, that 20 cents per gallon means only two dollars on a ten-gallon tank--about only a half-gallon's difference in fill up cost; yet you manage to go more than 100 miles farther on the same amount of fuel.

No, Traverse merely echoes the old complaints with no knowledge or understanding of our modern technologies. Diesel fuel is available at almost every gas station now (up north some even sold it as heating oil) and even in farm country you have a ready supply of diesel as farm trucks and tractors did--and do--still use diesel. There is no reason to worry about availability. There is no reason to worry about running out between stations (unless you totally ignore your fuel gauge). Even worrying about service is a non-issue as diesels are far more reliable and easier to work on than gasoline engines.

Again I ask: Why haven't the auto companies already embraced diesel?

holodoc

I have a 2.0 litre diesel Insignia ( Buick Regal )- 46 miles to the US gal -160 BHP - torque - 260 lb ft ( about the same as a 3.6 V6) - top speed 135 mph - oh and a range of 836 miles from one tank of fuel - hmmmm dont think you need to worry about going to far from a gas station - I think its about time the USA embraced the diesel engine!!! Oh and the emmissions are soooo low!

Transverse

WTF,
2012 VW TDI does require UREA injection and the stuff costs about $33/gallon. The VW fans in this string forgot to mention the bad reliability and the fact that VW has introduced diesel cars several times and then had to pull them from the market. I'm not buying what you're selling. The original VW diesel golfs took 25 seconds to hit 60 mph and the new ones are so slow off the line that a Prius will walk away from them. After the turbo gets spooled up their acceleration is passable, but not great. BMW 335 d is no longer sold in the US, and when it was it cost more and was slower than the gasoline 3 series.
Holodoc, I don't believe you. Besides the US cares about its air quality and requires emissions controls on diesel cars sold here. Don't brag about the performance of your filthy diesel euro car. It will never be sold in the US and for good reasons.

david950

Yes, the 2012 Passat TDI requires urea, but it's nowhere as bad as Transverse says. Urea (DEF) can be had for less than $5/gal. VW says the 4.9 gal tank in the Passat is good for 15.5k miles, meaning a gallon every 3k miles or so. Oh, by the way, VW covers the cost during the 3 year/36k mile included with purchase maintenance plan.

Regarding finding diesel, it's very easy no matter where you are, and with an honest 500+ miles per tank, if you're nervous, don't go below 1/4 tank.

Doing a quick survey at fuelly.com, using 2011 cars for samples, I find the average (median) Prius user is getting ~47mpg, at a cost of just under 9 cents/mile. Compare that to the Jetta, where the average is ~40mpg, at a cost of just over 10 cents/mile. Yes, the Prius is more efficient, but not by a ton. How you use the car has some impact as well, as the Jetta's highway numbers are much higher than the city numbers, while the Prius' city numbers are slightly higher than the highway numbers.

I can't speak for the Prius, but I can speak for the Jetta. My wife has put over 34k on her 2011 TDI, and we've done nothing but put fuel in it, rotate the tires, and change the oil. She drives mostly in town, and has a lead foot, and has averaged 35.7 over that time, at a cost of 10.5 cents/mile. When we take highway trips, it's easy to average well over the EPA estimate of 42, getting 47 or more. I understand VW has had reliability problems in the past. I gambled, and have no regrets. I can't see into the future, so I can't comment on how I'll feel in 5 or more years.

Granted, diesels have their own fancy technology - the reason VW (and others) left the US market and came back was to comply with new emissions standards. Those standards make for some fancy exhaust plumbing including the DPRF which will eventually have to be cleaned/replaced. However, how do we enter this discussion without talking to hybrid battery replacement/disposal?

Say what you want Transverse, I have a much lower cost per mile with our Jetta than I did with our Mazda 3. Would this be true if I had a Prius? Sure. I chose diesel, and I don't regret it - it sounds like you chose another route, and that's cool too - I hope you're happy with it.

david950

One more thing - I've driven all sorts of vehicles, and sport bikes, and my Hemi powered pickup - and while the Jettamight not light up the 0-60 charts, it has tons of usable power. Passing on two lane roads, accelerating up on-ramps, all the kinds of power you need, it has.

MMcGrail

Ireland has really embraced diesel recently since the change to Co2 based taxation. Gas is only viable in subcompacts if you do lots of short journeys. Modern Diesels are technical marvels and clean diesel motors are really clean. I had a 2006 Passat 1.9TDI and it was slow. wifes 2011 Audi A1 1.6TDI is very quick and gives 50MPG even without trying. Gas is $8.90 per US gal here (EURO 1.69 per litre) Road tax on a BMW 520D is $290 versus €800 for a gas powered car and tat's before the purchase tax on new vehicles, so pretty much if you buy a car registered after mid 2008, it'll be diesel.

We are taxed into it largely. but god help you if the diesel is dirty or you are cheap on servicing or only do short journeys.

The days of slow, smelly diesels are gone, but so too are the days of indestructible diesels

Mike

I always heard Oldmobile in the late 1970s ruined the diesel experience in America with very unreliable engines. Obviously, technology has progressed.

WTF

I said Jetta TDI. Can't and won't argue with someone who isn't objective and you definitely have an axe to grind so good luck to you.

Doubleclutch

Transverse is full of crap! In the 1700-3000 RPM range where most of us spend most of our time, the TDI has TWICE the power of a typical gas 4 cylinder. I drive a 12,000 lb. bus everyday with a 6.5 L Duramax diesel. It is smooth, nearly as quiet as a gas engine, and it hauls that bus over hill and dale quite briskly. In fact, it does all this while never exceeding 2500 RPM!

Vulpine

Obviously, everybody else's experiences totally overwhelm Traverse's opinion. Maybe it's time for Traverse to go to school.

I drive gas engine simply because the cars I drive don't come in diesel--or carry much too big a diesel engine than I need or want.

Jeep Wrangler would be a rock-crawling killer with a 2- or 3-litre diesel.
My F-150 with 5.0gas would be far more efficient with a 3.0litre diesel and still have similar driving performance.

Unfortunately, neither one has the engine I want, so I have to take the engine it has.

Sean

I drive a 2011 Jetta TDI. I love it. I average 48 mpg, and can get up to 52 miles per gallon on the highway. I drive 80 miles round trip to work every day. The diesel is much cheaper to operate, even though fuel is more expensive. I will definitely purchase another diesel.

john

Transverse is so out of it, he hardly deserves comment.
My '04 Golf TDI averages 55-60 mpg in warmer weather. 700 miles on a tank is easy.
Diesels are not slow, either, for at least 5 years they have swept the Worlds Championship race- the 24 hours at LeMans.

TheShepherd

Transverse, I buy Urea at Sam's Club for $9.98 for 2 1/2 gallons.

dieselMBZ

Proud owner of a 1985 300D turbo diesel Mercedes-Benz. I can easily go 450 miles on a tank driving cross country. Texas to California and I've never had trouble finding diesel at a station. Ever. I've got 198k on this car and it runs like a champ.

Family owns a 1981 300D with 300k+ miles on it. Still running like a champ. (And its been converted to run on vegetable oil)

My mother upgraded from the 81 to a 2006 E320 CDI Mercedes. Talk about 600+ miles on a tank with highway driving averaging 72mph or so.

And my younger brother just purchased an 84 300TDT (station wagon version).

Needless to say, these diesels outlast a majority of their gasoline counterparts. We pick over the Ecology junkyard and the gasoline version of these cars are sitting there dead.

Mean old man

Traverse is way off base. Diesel stations are far more available than they have been in the past. Probably more than half of the stations in my area (NE Ohio) now carry diesel, with many now carrying B5 and B20. The 2 liter TDI from VW does not use urea, it use a special catalyst trap. While I am sure it will be expensive to replace at some point, so is the catalytic converter on a gasoline motor, which are supposed to replaced at recommended intervals as well. When compared to the combine fuel mileage of a gasoline model, my '11 TDI sportwagen actually costs less per mile despite the fact that diesel is more expensive per gallon. Also far better performance. As to cold weather issues, no, not true. We have not had any more issues in extremely cold weather with either our 04 Golf or our Sportwagen than we did with any of our gasoline fueled vehicles. No additives required

dfensman

Transverse, I have a 2012 VW Golf TDI. Please show up in the stock Prius of your choice and bring your pink slip.

CT_Jetta

Traverse is so out of touch. Please for your sanity, drop by your local VW dealer and simply ask them about the new Jetta and or Passat. Take a test drive, then come back and post, all will be forgiven.
I drive a Jetta TDI don't need to piss into my gas tank and get 50mpg+ there is nothing on the road that can intimidate me.

Victor

To date the Audi Q7 has been available, but not the Q5 (which has been available in Europe and South America since the Q5 launched). I see the Audi Q5 on the list, but not the Q7. Has something changed in Audi's plans?

L.M.C. & Co.

Victor Maybe they are only talking about vehicles that are getting them for the first time or returning with a diesel option??

colossalimage

Traverse you ARE out of touch, I was visiting Italy and rented a Ford Focus. Spent four days driving the bugger, and went to gas station to get gasoline, what do I know it is a diesel! I can't even tell the difference. the car act like a gasoline car from pick up to low end torque, and super gas mileage. I was wondering why can't American have this? So I did some research it is an EU emission 5 standard super clean. I started to pay attention to where diesel was sold around me (NJ) surprisingly it is more than you think, you are just not looking, better yet it has no lines! I think only Mercedes is doing the fuel addictive not VW. Cost more? I don't think so. You can get a VW at middle $20s and and upper end Audi to middle $30s the gas version in fact cost more. My next car will not be a hybrid, always dealer service and if yo want to keep the car long, cost of battery from what i heard $4K to $8K

Transverse

frensman,
My comments are not about the Prius, but the folly of diesel cars like yours. It's interesting to read the postings here about diesel cars that are no longer made, like the 2004 VW - which was pulled from the market until they started selling the latest version. Anyway you shouldn't challenge any Priis to a drag race. The electric motor in a Prius develops 400 newton meters of torque at zero rpm. To translate for someone like you that's 295 foot pounds, or the same torque as a V8. That's why the prius has traction control - so you don't melt the tires. Anyway I wouldn't want a diesel car like yours even if you gave it to me because of the high cost of repairs, fuel and the slow acceleration, not to mention the particulate pollution.

Wow, interesting battle going on here folks. Not to stir the pot but my husband loves and adores his diesel RAM SLT truck (maybe a little too much).

We drove that thing all over the U.S. on vacation a few years ago with no worries about finding fuel. BTW, handy phone apps are now available to help you find fueling stations, and are very helpful.

As for everyday communiting, my husband travels all over Southern California in that truck of his. Sure he spends a bit more than I do at the tank but his mileage per gallon far surpasses mine. Our service guy is always telling us "it's a diesel, it'll run forever.."

L.M.C. & Co.

Traverse a V6 3.0 diesel like what are in the M.B. Ml or the VW Toureg, have over 450 ft-lbs torque at 1600rpm, and a L4 2.0 TDI in the Jetta/ Golf has 236 ft-lbs at 1750 rpm!! Do not diss the Torque on a diesel. P.S. The 0-62MPH on the Prius: 10.3
VW Jetta 9.0
M.B. ML Bluetec (at over 4785 lbs) 7.4
And to finish it off the 2013 Porsche Cayenne TDI 7.2

L.M.C. & Co.

And I forgot to mention that in our 2012 VW Toureg it isn't the 0-62MPH that is impressive ( it is 8.0) it is the 30-100MPH is when it really moves. And also if you ever back it into the garage you can't even smell diesel when you get out either.

L.M.C. & Co.

Sorry for a third post but I would just like to say I do like Toyota's ( I even drive one) but a prius is no comparision to a diesel.
And p.s. I wish Toyota had a diesel, and hybrid are potentionaly as high priced to repair with the batteries as a diesel and a diesel has less chance to break down because the engines are built stronger to withstand higher compression. And our Toureg can go ANYWHERE unlike a Prius.

Vulpine

@Traverse: The problem with your "400 Newton Meters of torque at 0 RPM" is that as that RPM starts to rise, that torque falls...quickly. That small electric motor in the Prius simply isn't up to the demand when driven in any kind of sporty manner (not saying it can't do it, just that it can't do it AS WELL) as a TCI Golf, Beetle, or any other VW--much less any other brand's turbo diesel engine.

I'll make it even more fun. Bring out your Prius and do a quarter-mile against my V6 Jeep Wrangler (completely stock.) Guess which vehicle would lose that race? Don't know? It'd be the Prius because while it might get the jump, as it accelerates the torque falls off where the diesel is just beginning to come on strong. The diesel would pass it less than half-way down the track.

VWveets

I have a Touareg TDI. The low end torque from this engine is what sold me. Better than a gas V8.

Regular gas and diesel are currently priced about the same here in Chicago. Up until recently, gas was $.30/gal more than diesel. Of course, this was reversed a few years back.

Adblue refills are free during the VW warranty period (36,000). After that, AutoZone (BlueDEF) and others sell 2.5 gallon jugs for around $12. At $24 every 10,000 miles in my Touareg, Adblue is not really something to consider in the cost of ownership. Tires, now that's another story.

Transverse

No arguments with diesel touraregs and other truck like vehicles. I just don't think it is worth it in cars because of the extra costs, when you can buy some nice hybrid gassers. Just the same, I see lots of diesel fans and VW did a nice job of building a Jetta diesel that doesn't need urea injection. Hats off to them for that, which I wasn't aware of. A couple of folks pointed out you can buy cheaper urea at discount stores. I would be careful - Mercedes warns that you have to use their expensive stuff or all kinds of expensive failures will happen. Good luck to all and may all the diesel fuel you buy be good fuel!

L.M.C. & Co.

Amen!! about the tires VWveets ( two new tires for ours at 450$. each)

FoDaddy

I will admit today's diesels are way, way better than what most Americans remember them being. However, if you compare apples to apples, the vaunted TD torque isn't that great. You see you're compare forced induction to a normally aspirated gas engine. If you compare a turbo gas engine to a turbo diesel engine the gas engine will be in the same ballpark for torque and produce more horsepower. The VW TDI 2.0L and the 2.0T gas engines. The 2.OT turbo makes 266 HP and 258 lb-ft of torque. Whilst the top TDI 2.0L makes 168 HP and also makes 258 torque.

So a for the same displacement and same induction, the gas engine, in this case makes nearly 100 more HP and matches the TDI engine for torque. I'm sure the gas engine won't match the TDI for fuel economy though.

4$Only

How about a Diesel- Hybrid a nice compromise.

L.M.C. & Co.

I think that the french company Peugeot has a Prototype that is almost ready for production called the 508-RXh that is a diesel- hybrid wagon/SUV (Audi Allroad style) that will get an estimated 67MPG and has 332ft-lbs torque 197bhp coming from a 2.0HDi engine & a nickle-metal hybrid battery pack

peter norton

Too bad all dieasels on the road now are in german vehicles, which are overpriced, not reliable and can't actually be "people's choise".

Diesel Mazda CX-5 would be very exiting SUV. Japanese quality and 45mpg :)

PS this captcha is killing my 3rd message. I wish it was tattooed on the forehead of the genius who put it here.

Highdesertcat

Diesel sales in passenger vehicles remain miniscule when compared to gasoline-engine sales in the same vehicles.

Diesel has a lot going for it, and I've owned a Euro-spec M-B 220D, but nothing beats a gasoline-powered vehicle all-around.

Diesel fuel is widely available at truck stops but get off the beaten path or in most cities and most stations are not set up for Diesel fuel.

I believe diesel-powered vehicles should be available for anyone who wants to buy one, if that is what they want, but their sales will still be miniscule when compared to gasoline-powered vehicles.

Jens

Hello!
Here is a comment from Germany. In Germany all taxis (cabs) run on Diesel. Yes they are more expensive, but the MPG is much better. I often rent cars on business trips and the Diesel cars are at least as much fun to drive as the gasoline ones.
Anybody wants to drive an energy efficient car should use a modern Diesel engine.In Germany we sell about 50% Diesel Engines and 50% run on Gasoline. We Germans accept Diesel as a reliable technology.
I just wnated to give you a different perspective on the matter.
Have a great day!

Jim Lockey

If you figure miles per $ then diesel is not higher. I have driven all over the US and have never had trouble finding diesel fuel.

Martin Williams

I think Americans like Transverse have some very odd notions about diesel.

I live in the UK, and have a ford Focus diesel and really cannot fault it. It is quiet, clean and powerful. It is certainly a lot less expensive to drive, and is fun to drive. It does about 55mpg around town (UK gallons), cruises comfortably at 80 to 85 on motorways, and has required NO maintenance other than an annual service in the five years I've had it.

I really have no idea what Transverse is basing his ideas on. I suspect it must be a clapped out 40 year old tractor, but whatever it is its a long way from reality.

Ideas are changing in the US though. The number of diesels sold annually is roughly the same as all electric cars and hybrids combined. Unlike them, however, sales are going up at around 30% a year. So in ten years we can expect Americans to be buying more diesels than petrol cars, as happens right across europe. I imagine by then hybrids and electric cars will be history.

Highdesertcat

Martin, diesel has a lot going for it, but I don't see Americans catching on in any great numbers.

They never did before and it is highly unlikely that they will this time around either.

Sure, there will be a few who buy light-duty diesel cars and trucks but their numbers will remain infinitesimally small when compared to regular petrol/benzine/gasoline-powered conveyances.

We cannot equate the American drivers to those in Europe or Asia. The American psyche is totally different.

For one thing, MOST Americans do not care about the price of fuel. They may not like it but they just shrug their shoulders and pay whatever it costs, time after time after time. Until they run out of money.

In Europe, the cost of fuel has caused a life-style change. It will not do so in the US.

I was stationed there during the seventies with the US military for eight years, in three different countries, including the RAF base At Spadeadam.

If Americans were interested in saving on fuel, the EV and PHEV would have been popular. They bombed!

Yeah, some people did buy them, but MOST Americans did not. Electricity is dirt cheap in the US.

That would be the way to go for 85% of the drivers. It's not. Neither is diesel.

Carma

Martin,
1) your dirty euro diesel would never pass US emissions standards, so it's pointless for you to brag about it;
2) you're way off base regarding your statement on diesel versus hybrid and EV sales in the US. In May 2012, a total of 10,000 diesel cars were sold in the US, while hybrid sales alone totaled 37,000.
3) regarding your statement that diesels will replace hybrids and EVs - dream on. What planet are you living on?

Peter

There are too many ignorant comments made on this page. I am a 2012 Jetta TDI owner and I will gladly clear up the misconceptions.

1. Only the Passat TDI requires Urea injection, the Jetta TDI does not require Urea because it has a specialized system in place that recycles the exhaust and purifies it before allowing it to be expelled.

2. The VW tdi issues were related to the high pressure fuel pump (HPFP) and is specifically connected to the 2009 line of VW tdi's. The issue with the fuel pump have been corrected and is no longer a problem.

3. Not only is the Jetta TDI faster off the line than a prius (0-60 in 8 secs vs 8.9 secs), but turbo diesels really shine on the highway when they are already going 75 mph. If you haven't had the chance to test drive a turbo diesel on a highway you should do it. The available power to go from 70mph to 100mph in just a couple seconds without having to even rev the engine is something that has to be experienced. The car just begs to drive faster and has no qualms with doing so. A prius at 70mph will have to angrily rev the engine to 5000-6000 rpms and will slowly accelerate fighting you the entire time.

Carma

I recently got the opportunity to drive a new VW Passat TDI. I tried to like it, but the noise from the engine combined with the injector clatter was unbearable. It was so loud the dashboard was vibrating along with the clattering engine. No way I would buy a VW TDI. Maybe the Cruze diesel will be quieter.

TDI is GOOD

I have a VW TDI in Canada, we get to -30deg C, I have never had my car gel up and not start - Tranverse is living in the old days - get a life. I don't have to put anything in it for emissions. I do all the work like on a normal car, and I get 1000KM/tank. YEs, they are that good. And i can find Diesel anywhere.

horses are good

Some folks like diesel cars, just like some folks prefer riding a horse or some other obsolete technology. I'll skip the clatter and the diesel stench and the urea and the fuel additives and the higher cost of maintenance, fuel and the car itself and will stick with a more reliable gasoline hybrid vehicle that gets 50 mpg in the city.

David of Cornwall

I live in the UK and I've been driving diesel cars for years. Recently after some car problems (the nit-picking annual inspection that we have over here which failed the 4x4) I had to make do with a stop-gap car. It was a Peugeot 405 GLD estate bought for £100, the same price as the scrap-man offered! The car is over 20 years old but it still runs like a champ. (It has always had regular oil and filter changes and the oil has always been Shell Helix synthetic) Mileage is now 180,000 but the running costs are still very low as a couple of gallons a week is all it needs! Cornwall to Scotland can be done easily on one tank of fuel so really the owners of those automatic V8 gas-hogs don't know what they are missing! Unfortunately the new diesel cars are stuffed full of computers. The result is that the reliability of these Common Rail Drive-By-Wire cars is far poorer than the old-timers that used a jerk-pump. In particular one must never ever run out of fuel because if you do the ultra high pressure pump will be toasted. The only good news is that the new pump does not need to be timed. 60 miles per Imperial gallon is quite normal with a modern diesel car and 45 to 50 mpg with the older models. Go for it, your wallet will notice the difference!

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