Would You Buy a Chinese Volvo?

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One of the many moves the Detroit Three is making to weather its current financial crisis is Ford’s selling of Volvo. The brand is based in Sweden and run by Ford, and Volvo has produced some of its best vehicles under Blue Oval ownership. That hasn’t, however, prevented a slump in sales.

Potential buyers have been rumored to include the Swedish government, Tata Motors of India, and Hyundai, but one recent name that's come up will certainly spur debate: Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation.

While buyers have warmed to Korean nameplates in the U.S., the idea of Chinese ownership has different connotations for many. That leaves us asking you the question: If Volvo were owned by a China-based company, would you buy its cars?

Ford may sell Volvo brand to Shanghai (MailOnline)

By David Thomas | December 8, 2008 | Comments (37)

Comments 

J

What does ownership has to do with its product?

If Ford can do it, so does other companies.

J,
You'd be surprised. I have a friend who wouldn't buy a new Range Rover solely because he is convinced that they are not only owned by ford, but built by ford- even after admitting that it would probably be more reliable than one made before ford or Bmw.

Broq

John

Well ... if a company has problems with quality, it will likely trickle down from top to bottom.

For those who are still living in the past, the quality of Ford cars are on par with Japanese car makers like Toyota and Honda (according to Consumer Reports and JD Power).

Tony

John,
In reference to: "For those who are still living in the past, the quality of Ford cars are on par with Japanese car makers like Toyota and Honda (according to Consumer Reports and JD Power)."

Consumer Reports measures not quality - reliability.
JD Power measures initial quality. How many days? - 90? If your car breaks in 90 days it must be a lemon.

For the new Fords the quality is still not there. And long-term reliability is still unknown. To me quality product is one product, which can function well without losing its qualities over time, potentially over long time. Some of new Fords proven to be fairly reliable over 3 years. But they still are not Hondas in the functionality department. Because Hondas function better. Everything Hondas do, they do better. While reliablity really evens up.

Quasma

I agree w/ Tony's post as I personally like Ford's but the truth is they are finally making some of their older models more reliable - big deal! That's like Buick ranking up there in "initial quality" with Lexus. When any of the Detroit 3 can turn out highly reliable cars while remaking them every 3 years like Honda does then I'll be impressed. There is nothing impressive about a Ford Escape receiving high reliability marks after it's fifth year in production.

JD Power does a number of studies including a 3 year reliability study.

John

This is where perception lags reality ... wake up!!! Ford cars are on par with Honda and Toyota in reliabilty or quality ... ask any car experts.

Quasma, what makes Toyota and Honda cars reliable is because they use pretty much the same platform for ten years or so ... fewer platform and fewer parts. American car companies like Ford and GM are starting to realize this and thus, the improvement in quality and reliability.

Quasma,
Nobody remakes their cars every three years!

Broq

Kyle

On average Honda does a major redesign every 3-4 years and the Accord is a perfect example of it. The second through fifth generations were all done every 3 years, the sixth and seventh generations in 4 and 3.5 years respectively. And unlike GM who has some of their horrendous V6 engines (ie Equinox) built by the Chinese, Honda's V6 is built by Americans in Lincoln, Alabama.

People who base their purchase on price buy GM, Ford, Chrysler. People who base their purchase on style and quality buy Japanese.

markt

i work with several mechanics, and they all say landrovers are ghastly to deal with. Even brand new ones driven fresh off the lot, have problems almost immediatly. a warranty is a nice thing to have, but if you buy a car and bring it back to the dealership in the same year, thats not reliable. Ford products are changing for the better, which i'm happy about. GM and Chrysler still have not gotten the memo about reliability.

The Great Debate forever marches onward...

Imports and Domestics and Honda and Chrysler and GM and Toyota and Ford and Hyundai and on and on and on...why do people care so much about what car they like?

Tony

John,
let me tell you about quality.
I was lucky to own 1990 Civic and 98 Protege.
Civic had 160K when I crashed it @45mph into side of the Tempo attempting cross the highway. At that point the only repair it needed was CV Boots and Alternator. So, the car sustained the crash well and had couple small problems after it had at least 120K.

The Protege has 150K and I had to replace 2 pieces of exhaust and A/C clutch for all this time.

Now, the good news is that both cars, Civic before and Protege now. They drive/drove like the day when I purchased them. The suspension is still performing really good on Protege. Seats are still didn't develop any holes. Door handles, controls on the dash - all like day one.

This is quality!

I had many other cars. Worst - Chrysler LeBaron. This thing was braking monthly. I had many Nissans. Still have one now. And I can confirm that no Nissan is in Honda quality territory or Protege.
Last thing, I want to make it clear that not all Hondas are reliable, not all Mazdas are reliable. You got to go model by model. When I said Hondas, I meant models that perform to the name of Honda. Because Passport, Odyssey didn't.

Rich

What's Chinese for, "NO" and "NEVER"?

J

Rich,

It's time to learn a new language.

It is 否 and 永不.

John,

When did quality became equal to reliability is a total mystery, it is like politic spins that the automakers want you to believe they are the same.

I would not buy a Volvo built in a Chinese plant. I own 2 V70XC's (Cross Country), a 1998 built in Ghent, Belgium (138K miles) and a 2007 (22k miles) built in Torslanda, Sweden. Both have been very reliable and I find them to be high quality. I might buy a car built in either plant under Chinese ownership, but I would not buy a Chinese-manufactured auto. I've been burned too many times, they just don't have the maturity yet although they're getting there.

bobr900

If the Volvo's were made in China I would not buy one. The current problems with Chinese manufacturing are poor quality control, poor metallurgy and toxic products, as we are seeing right now in products made for children. The last problem is unforgivable. The few cents saved is not worth the life or health of any person, much less that of an innocent and helpless child.

Bob

bobr900

If the Volvo's were made in China I would not buy one. The current problems with Chinese manufacturing are poor quality control, poor metallurgy and toxic products, as we are seeing right now in products made for children. The last problem is unforgivable. The few cents saved is not worth the life or health of any person, much less that of an innocent and helpless child.

Bob

S70

It really comes down to price and warranty. I have nothing against a Chinese Volvo in principal but unless there is a significant price advantage and a solid warranty I'd stick with the Swedish :)

Zampes

Hi everyone...
A good reason for me not to buy a Chinese car would be the following: Quality! I own a China-made laptop that is dying after just one year. And it's not only that, pretty much anything made in China is low-quality and toxic, not to mention they pay their workers squat. I would not support a car manufacturer owned by Chinese corporation, no matter if the vehicle is made in Europe!

Iris Hammer

I would never buy a Chinese built car as I could never trust the materials that went into the making of it. If Volvo is sold to a Chinese company I will get rid of my Volvo and get a Lexus. How could I possibly trust parts my car might need as it ages given all the reports of poorly made and toxic Chinese products?

JW

NO, NO, NO! In fact, Ford and Volvo have already lost a customer on just the mere rumor that they are considering this. My kids ride in my car. That's why I buy Volvos -- or used to. I won't buy a one dollar toy made in China and I certainly won't buy a car made there. Furthermore, I'm not risking that my family's car is going to be subject to corporate decisions and cheap replacement parts from China in the event of this sale. Bye, bye, V70, it was great while it lasted! I'm afraid this is the end of Volvo as anything but a marketing label. So sad to see the death of a once-proud company! And now I'll have to figure out what car to buy. I guess a Toyota or a Honda. Not very exciting cars, but at least the Japanese have proven their commitment to building good safe over several decades. I know they won't put a fifty cent profit ahead of my children's wellbeing.

S

Volvo's target market in the US will not buy Volvo's is they are owned by a Chinese company.

The American Volvo owner is exactly the type of individual that is concerned about safety and the environment. They are likely to be the ones that are concerned about a Free Tibet. Chinese ownership would kill the Volvo marque in the passenger vehicle category in the US.

Count Laszlo

No, I wouldn't. I would not support this at all. The first thing China would do is take Volvo's technology for their own brands. Second, they would water down, and/or value engineer the new Volvo with lead paint and other toxic parts. And after realizing they can't afford to "innovate" because of the high expense of testing, keeping Volvo's brand "crash proof" legecy, the company would end up being dissolved. I would never buy anything from China. Ever.

albert hall

A Chinese Volvo? If it is built like the crap tools they make then NO THANKS. BMW or MERCEDES when I replace my XC60.

Steph D.

I come from a Volvo loyal family. It's breaking my heart that after decades I will not be able to trust a car brand that has been there my whole life and kept my family members safe and comfortable in good times and accidents! I would NEVER buy Volvo again if the Chinese were involved. NEVER. I could NEVER trust the cars again. The issue is, what to change to? Anyone have any ideas? I;ve just never known another brand really. Buying Volvo was a given for me and all my siblings.

Fred

I will never ever buy a Volvo made or owned by Chinese. I will simply switch to Acura, BMW or even Hyundai. If Ford sells Volvo to Chinese I even will boycott Ford for my life.

Ryan

Well, I actually was in market for an XC90 for this winter. However, after this rumor I am waiting to see if they will really sell it to Chinese. In such case I will be in market for an Acura MDX for next year! I know that the one I consider is the very same car for now, but I really care who is behind the name...

will

I wont even buy chinese food. Audi will replace my S40

VolvoOwner

NO WAY

Jose Valdez

I am sixteen years old. Since I was eight years old I've dreamed of owning a Volvo, a Swedish Tank. I even have the Volvo logo tattooed on my back. I finally have one. A beautiful, luxurious, 960. A real tank. I almost cried the day I heard these sad, sad news. I think I'm switching over to BMW or Mercedes soon.

David Hardaway

We own 2 Volvos about 6 years old. If China is successful in the purchase/takeover, I will not be buying another Volvo under their ownership. Quality perception issues aside, I won't do itfor that reason, but most importantly I am sick of America empowering earth poluting communist countries. They already OWN a Trillion $ of bearer bonds payable by USA related to the $ we borrowed from them after buying all their cheap toxic plastic products... Weird isn't it? We outsource jobs and manuafacturing for short term cost benefits only to borrow the money back from them that they made off our backs..

forget it. Time to buy American or other EURO and take our quality chances here at home.

Richard

Buy a Volvo made in China. No, I am currently an American residing in Thailand and see the real junk coming out of China. Skippy P-butter with 50% Oil, phones without wires connected inside and lots more.

As for Ford again another big No. I purchased a Focus and nothing but problems, plastics parts where they should have been metal and even down to the glued on plastic coated paper Ford emblems on the wheels.

The problem is what to purchase?

Upon return to the US I'll probably search out a nice pre 1974 auto and restore.

Gohn

No way, no matter if its built else where, the chinese will do anything to use some cheap parts to lower down the price of the car. cos that is what the attraction for chinese products are, cheap..

I would rather pay more for better quality made product.

Let Volvo sales be only limited to china. we don't need another chinese made junk.

Ana

A Chinese Volvo?? No, thanks! It's unacceptable, unnatural, unbelievable!
Having worked at Volvo in my younger years Ilearnt to love the make and know how reliable these cars are (were). I agree: this is the beginning of the end for Volvo cars. Vikings must be twisting in their graves!

kklasko

If China aquires volvo, I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER VOLVO. EVER. Ive owned Volvos for 20 years, and its safe to say, I will no longer be a Volvo customer. Its actually very sad.

Madcellist

No.

Don't like toxic waste in my toothpaste, poison in my dogfood or babyfood, lead or radioactive, carcinogenic metals in EVERYTHING or Chinese safety standards in my car. All those years building up a reputation for safety go POOF with the mention of one idea: Chinese ownership.

JJ

I refused to buy a Volvo under unreliable Ford and God knows I would never buy a Volvo from the Chinese either - their products are horrendous, if not deadly in some situations.

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