Honda Recalls 182,756 Civic Sedans
In a separate recall, 19,904 2006 Civics are being recalled because of a brake light that may fail.
Honda will notify owners by mail concerning both recalls, but you can call 800-999-1009 to get more information. All damaged parts will be replaced at no cost as part of the recall.
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Amuro Ray is this enough to say that quality ratings are going down for imports?
Idiot...I gues by your logic, no one should EVER buy domestics again, right, simply because of all the recalls we've had for the last 10 years? Didn't Ford just recall a whole bunch of their vehicles? And so was the Hummer with...wait...drum roll please...wheels falling off?
1 recall, and you can make a whole story out of it. Please, say the same thing on all the domestics recall too.
See, education is important, and idiots are always so easy to spot.
P.S. Since the Civic is made...oh wait...you used assemble...here in the US, then I guess the culpit is LOUSY AMERICAN WORKMANSHIP, right?
Man, it's so easy to beat the crap out of these idiots :)
Yes, if you click the Recall tag you can see all the recent recalls by all automakers. this just happened to have timing for Keith. Ford recalled over 3 million vehicles this summer.
This is still significant like I said but we report on every recall that comes in and word them in a way as to not include any opinion whatsoever.
What is this I hear? A defender of stupidity?
Yet again you misintrpert. I was laughing at the fact that this "golden best of all best blah blah" Vehicle has a recall on it were the wheels could fall off due to FAULTY WHEEL BEARINGS. Also at the fact of you early stating that quality ratings for imports not going down. The fact that you are proven wrong makes me smile.
The parts for the civic are shipped here and it is built here yes that is true. But the Part is faulty not the crew who made it. Learn to read.
If you had learned how to read then maybe you would not make such hasty accusations.
See this is how people know that you are most likely just some college failure kid who thinks that he has mastered the art of everything. You name your self on here after a Gundam cartoon chracther and you most likely drive a beat 98 civic which you swear is the fastest car in the world.
Learn to read. Learn to not take things out of context and then we can talk civil.
Oh and I am still laughing at the irony.
Ok, LAST TIME TO KICK KC BUTT!!!
"to fix a faulty wheel bearing that may cause the wheels to fall off."
I'm surprised that you are so domestic-minded when you work for Honda.
"quality ratings for imports not going down."
Wait...where did I say that? I did say that import's market share are NOT going down though...
Now YOU, LEARN TO READ! The sentence up there states NOTHING about whether it's a parts issue or workmanship issue that has caused the faulty bearing, and unless you work for Honda, there's NO PROOF that the part itself is actually shipped from Honda. It's actually more likely that this is a US made parts because imports usually ship the engine and transmission from overseas, and not for a small parts like the bearing. So it's actually more than likely a US-workmanship (either in assembling the wheel bearing or making the parts of the wheel bearing) problem.
And before you and I can talk civil...you better go back to school and learn how to write and present yourself first, so that people can actually read your writings and understand your point. At least I've 3 university degrees on science with honors, but what about you? High school drop-out?
Ok Dave: To defend Toyota - why did you have to mention Toyota? So what? Why not mention a whole list of companies who have had recalls? I think you have a vendetta against Toyota. There was no reason in the story to call Toyota out.
When writing about a Toyota recall, would you say: and Chrysler has had a spate of recalls lately too. Or Mazda. Or Ford. Or whoever. No, you just call out Toyota like they should get special mention in a story that's totally unrelated to Toyota.
To Amuro Ray:
You write: "The sentence up there states NOTHING about whether it's a parts issue or workmanship issue...So it's actually more than likely a US-workmanship (either in assembling the wheel bearing or making the parts of the wheel bearing) problem."
What's the point who made the part? The point is it went through Honda's Quality Control process and they approved it. It's their car and now it's their issue to deal with. And therefore, is their fault. You can't go passing the blame from Honda to someone else - it's Honda's fault.
And, hasn't the Accord had problems with transmissions? Big recall, big problems? No mention of that DT, eh?
This is one of those days I want to turn the comments off because it's of no help to the general population.
That's the mixed bag of blogging. i mentioned Toyota because it is one of those things people might see on the news tonight about a Japanese company having a recall that's the only reason and the trend has been Toyota has seen a big spike in recalls the past two years. That's a legitimate news story. The domestics recalls are declining actually and we've reported on that too. But Honda's recall rates are miniscule (1,000+mechanical defects in 2006) compared to the industry avg.
(Now this is a more educated conversation)
LM, I see your point, but I don't totally agree with you. In the auto industry, which I used to have very close tied with (the previous company I worked for supply all the paints, seating fibers, dashboards, etc. to cars made in US - GM/FORD/CHRYSLER/HONDA/TOYOTA/etc.), and we have what we call ISO and QS system. Within the system, many things have been "assumed" to have met a certain standard, so QC from the car makers thenselves aren't always the case of a "must-do" - it sometimes (well, often time) falls into this "assumed" QC-passed standard already. As a result, we know that there were times (and many) a part has failed NOT because of the car manufacturers, but actually the parts suppliers. To the common consumers, yes, it's a Honda's issue, but the truth is, it's not.
And to those import supporters who went into paint problems in the 90's - the reason why your paint sucked was because the car manufacturers have decided to go CHEAP on paint... we told them not to use such formulas, but they insisted.
As to the point of workmanship and parts...I'm just answering the idiot who says that import quality has gone downhill...even on US-made vehicles, with this bearing probably made in the US and assembled in US, so it's a US workmanship issue. It's just to kick this person's butt, and nothing more. :)
AR: Well kicking butt is always fun. I appreciate your insight. I still think the ultimate blame lies with whoever's name is on the outside of the vehicle. When you buy a car, it doesn't say Denso on the back.
DT: You know the comments will come in stories like this. It just seems that you're fanning the flames a bit. And yes I'm biting.
I see recall posts almost as PSAs. I might consider not activating comments on them because people could come here searching for help with their cars and read comments laughing at them.
I don't like the thought of that. I don't mind open discourse but there's a place for certain conversations and I'm not sure a story about a serious mechanical problem is one of them.
I agree with you, D.T., and sorry for my rant with that idiot earlier. It's best to NOT allow comments on Recall, 'coz it's really a notice and not a place for comment. Only owners of that particular vehicle need to care 'bou it, and not for people who just want to point out "domestics #1" (or "import #1"). They don't need to do anything on the recall, so why would they care, other than to start another fight with the real car lovers. If people have questions, they should contact the manufacturers, and not this blog.
Fair enough Dave (on removing comments), but just state the point of the story then and avoid mentioning other makes when reporting a recall. Toyota has nothing to do with Honda. They didn't make the Civic. Honda did not have a press release that said "Toyota had lots of recalls last year so we're not that bad".
This is where people complain about media "spin".
Finally, if you're going to remove comments on blog entries then you are acting as a censor, kind of the rendering the point of blogging (as anti-establishment media). The new media is a format for back-and-forth discussion and reasoning. When someone comes and read a blog they expect some sort of forum for discussion.
If I had a Honda Civic I might read this and then get my information on a recall at nhtsa.gov or the manufacturer.
LM,
There's no real rule book for blogs. I've been doing it as long as a lot of folks too and I didn't see it as anti-establishment as more of another way of presenting news. Not with a slant, but with speed and the ability to add information collectively, often from comments. That would be my reason for keeping them open, to get Civic owners' feedback for example this time.
I still bet you in every news segment tonight there will be a mention of Toyota with this announcement. That is the "trend" aspect of the piece. The two companies are often tied together as high reliability brands. But I see your point.
I commend you for being responsive. It's refreshing compared to some sites where you send a comment or a letter into a black hole.
Now back to the Civic - it's still a relatively new model and they are of course working out the bugs. A quick check shows the 2006 Civic has 8 recalls on it, ranging from incorrect info in the owner's manual to improperly fixed rear glass on the coupe. Still, 8 is a lot for a Civic.
Just for comparison, the 2007 Camry (a new model) had just 1 recall. Ok, I had to do that. I also found the Honda tranny recall I mentioned above (over 1 million vehicles) from 2004.
Ugh, so much arguement over a recall from a generally reliable automaker. When are you people gonna learn that nobody and nothing is perfect?
My wife's 2005 Civic Sedan had a faulty wheel bearing about 4 months ago. I wonder if this is an issue with other year models. Can someone tell who made the bad bearing? The manufacturer of the bad part should have thier name plastered all over the news and blogs just as the auto manufacturer does.
All I read is Blah Blah Blah from the 2 idiots arguing each other without helping the topic at all.
(That reminds me a saying: Arguing on the internet is like competing in a special ed school competition; even if you win, you are still RETARDED!)
Okay, there is a recall from Honda. Big deal! So how can we find out more quickly which vehicle has the problem? It is already Friday night, and no one works at Honda's hotline until Monday.
And Dave T, would you please make the blog cleaner by removing those useless comments? Thanks.
Dave,
Just went to Honda's owner link, and they haven't post anything about it on the recall link. Maybe because it is Friday afternoon, so that no one updated the recall news?
Is there any other way to find out if our vehicle is involved? Because I still need to drive Saturday and Sunday.
The question maybe what company is not having recalls?
Like yours J?
This is kind of frustrating I just checked the owners link and there's nothing there. I also called the dealership and they couldn't give me any information.
kongkoro,
You are not alone...But at least, your dealer opens Saturday.
american cars CONSISTENTLY have more recalls. period.
look at recall lists. also, only honda and subaru are the only car manufacturers to have all their cars have acceptable reliability by consumer reports.
no american brand comes close
and kyle c, that isn't an example of irony. learn your literacy terms. but, that is expected of someone who has such a ridculous amount of blind patriotism that cannot see that imports are so much better. let me guess, you drive a pos truck, wear a wifebeater, and have a hygiene problem, right?
Guys, let's keep this clean while Dave is off for the weekend. And personal comments are not helpful to this place.
Just checked the owner link again, hoping it was updated. Nope, no one works Sat & Sun.
Hypocrite?
J: "Guys, let's keep this clean while Dave is off for the weekend. And personal comments are not helpful to this place."
J: "All I read is Blah Blah Blah from the 2 idiots arguing each other without helping the topic at all.
(That reminds me a saying: Arguing on the internet is like competing in a special ed school competition; even if you win, you are still RETARDED!)"
J,
Unfortunately the recall is reported to the NHTSA before the company sends official notification to the owners or dealers which will happen later this month. I can check with Honda to see when they expect dealers to receive the fix details.
This is a workmanship issue like Amuro Ray stated.
Hey, LM
I think that YOU have a vendetta against Honda! For your information, if you read carefully this post, you would see that Toyota is mentioned. Stop having an attitude when someone mentiones Toyota. Toyota is not perfect like you think it is. If you get your chance to state that someone has a vendetta against Toyota, then you also have a vendetta against Honda since you're defending Toyota the way you mentioned that it seems like someone has a vendetta against Toyota. If you are loyal to Toyota, then try not to make it so obvious that you're against imports other than Toyota. Then you probably have a vendetta against Nissan.
I love the personal attacks. Keep 'em coming.
I've actually owned a Honda and they are good cars. I just did not understand why pointing out Toyota was necessary in a story about Honda.
I do think Toyota makes good cars, but so does Honda.
you cant say that american companies have consistently more recalls; one, there are way more brands of american cars than there are japanese cars, and 2, the reliability and build qulaity varies so much between them. plus, there have been WAY more recalls from toyota and honda in the past few years than from GM. Toyota had 10- thats right 10-last year. if you want to compare american cars to japanese cars, you have to pick one brand out of the dozens and compare them, like chevy vs. honda or jeep vs. toyota.
JM-
Consider yourself TROLLED!
JM,
How many American automaker are there?
I can count 3 major ones. Don't say brands, brands are meaningless. They are owned by the same company, and sometimes are produced in the same plant, using the same parts, and have the same quality control, but different badges.
Thanks.
Kyle C.
You're such an idiot! stop hallucinating about Amuro Ray driving a 98 Civic and how he swears it is the fastest car in the world. Do you have something against 98 Civics? They are pretty fast for cars in their class. It's a free country and people can drive what they want..
You drive one of them Egg-Car Toyota Yaris things* that have to go on the tow truck because they malfunction.
*Open up the fridge, get an egg out, and set it in your palm and look at the Toyota Yaris, and do the comparison.
This is what really pisses me off! Toyota has brake lights that fail, faulty steering wheels, cruise control problems, and timing belts that screech like crazy at extremely low mileage. Is Toyota that holy that the truth can't be mentioned? No one issued a recall on them Toyotas. they just blame it on the others to make themselves look good. Use your 5 senses to see which cars are better than others, but don't have them blinders on so you don't see the negative side to....(drum roll, please) Toyota and Ford!!
I'm not saying Toyota makes bad cars, but on Sunday I was driving back from Wisconsin and going north bound on I-94, I saw a Toyota Prius 2006 model year that stalled on the side of the road, and behind it was a city tow truck.
LM, there is a point who made the part. obviously Honda did not make it! Tell your American supplier companies to be more honest with quality of the parts if you want to increase the quality of American vs. foreign workmanship since you folks are expecting Honda to have a high percentage of U.S. content. Who the hell cares about a Honda tranny recall!! I have seen mang Pontiac G6 sedans with the problem, so don't blame it all on Honda!
I believe GM gets their tranny from Getrag. Honda make their own.
Hey LM
So you’re basically in favor of Toyota and you have admitted that you have a vendetta against Honda and Nissan. I don’t know why you don’t know why your beloved Toyota was mentioned in a story about Honda when you should know why since you work for Toyota. You think everyone has a vendetta against Toyota. Is Toyota that holy? Do you know what kind of people owned all those Civic sedans? Do you know what they have been doing in terms of aftermarket modifications?
Trust me, that Prius that I mentioned that stalled on the road the other way was not the first one with a problem. I have seen also a 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid sedan stalled and the owners opened up the hood and the guys wife pointed to the hybrid “Synergy” system, so this obviously DID NOT HAPPEN THE FIRST TIME!! I have seen also another Prius that stalled and the owners had to push it into the parking space because its hybrid “Synergy” system malfunctioned. Now, since y’all Toyota folks who wear their pants up so high tell your customers to keep their mouth shut if your holy Toyotas malfunction and if they mention it, everyone completely ignores it and then you say that someone has a vendetta against Toyota.
Did you take into account all those Toyotass cruise control, catching fire, Scion air bags, Prius steering wheel recalls?? Oh wait...Toyota Tundra, Echo, Corolla, Camry, Lexus recalls?? That’s far more than Honda and Nissan who you have a vendetta against.