2007 Honda Civic Hybrid Real-World Mileage

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Hybrid fuel economy has been a hot topic on the blog, so when I had a chance to take a 100-mile trip in Honda's Civic Hybrid, I made sure to keep detailed gas mileage notes. While my trip average of 40 mpg was much lower than the EPA's combined 50 mpg estimate for the Civic Hybrid, it's pretty close to the new combined rating of 42 mpg that 2008 Civic Hybrids will receive as a result of new government testing procedures. More interesting, though, was the effect different types of driving conditions had on the car's fuel economy.

My route took me on a variety of roads, including suburban streets and toll roads, with speeds ranging from 5 mph to around 70 mph.

Of all the conditions I encountered, the Civic Hybrid returned the best gas mileage during traffic-free cruising; during a stretch of suburban driving at speeds between 30 and 50 mph, I averaged 49 mpg. At the midway point in my trip, which had already included faster toll-road driving, the car's average-mpg readout read 44.6 mpg.

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What eroded the gas mileage gains I'd made when cruising was a long section of stop-and-go traffic on a section of tollway that was under construction. Unlike the Ford Escape Hybrid and other hybrids that are able to move through this type of situation on electric power, the Civic Hybrid's four-cylinder engine, which usually stops when the car comes to a halt, restarts every time you take your foot off the brake pedal, burning more gas. It was also about 85 degrees outside during the second leg of my trip, so I had the air conditioning running with the windows up.

If there are any Civic Hybrid owners out there with gas mileage stats of their own to report, leave a note in the comments.

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Comments 

Tor

what is the real-world mpg on a standard Civic?

what about the diesel Civics they sell in Europe?

Elan

My wife and I have had our Civic Hybrid for 18 months and have averaged better than 45 MPG. If we lived in a flat area and not at the top of an 800 ft hill we'd probably get 47 MPG.

But why live on anecdotes? You can see the individual and average mileage of hundreds of Civic Hybrid owners, and other hybrid owners, at
http://greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/

Eric P

I have an '06 Civic Hybrid with over 34k miles on it already and my lifetime mpg is in the upper 40s. In the winter I routinely get mid to high 40s and in the summer high 40s to mid 50s. Over my daily work commutes (24-34 miles) I've bested over 70mpg one way on numerous occasion (while driving for gas mileage, 50-55mph driving), and I live in Kansas so that's not going down a mountain. My round trip averages are in the mid 60s on those trips. Even when I travel the speed limit of 70mph on the highway (I-435) I still routinely get high 40s. On my best tank ever I traveled 609 miles on 10.3 gallons of gas, which was just over 59mpg. 80% of that tank was from commuting to work. It would have reached 60mpg had I not had to make one short trip hauling butt through town.

It's all in HOW you drive it.

Tom L

Hybrids definitely do achieve better guess mileage, and unlike some who say hybrids are total flukes, I agree with the notion that how you drive it is what makes the difference. In standard cars if you drive conservatively, you can achieve far better gas mileage than in aggressive driving. In hybrids its the same deal, only the benefits of conservative driving are increased.

I however think that hybrids need to be stopped. Truth is that they are, as they are now, just a feel good tactic for the public, with very little to return in the way of helping the environment. Yes, they get great gas mileage, but you had to pay a premium for the car that you will not recuperate quickly. How does that play into the enviroment, you ask?

Lets say you take the $3000 extra you paid for the hybrid and use it to plant some trees. Then you use a 4 cylinder in conservative driving. What have you done? You are still getting high gas mileage (if everyone could get the 35 mpg that some small cars offer, the oil problem is gone), and the trees help to reduce carbon in the atmosphere and create fresh air. Plus, they provide habitat.

What does your hybrid do for the enviroment? Yes, it just cuts down on carbon emissions, but it still will use gas. Also, and this is the worst part: those batteries need replaced every once in a while. Something a Prius owner I know has learned is that the batteries do not last forever. It has nothing to do with charing them, its just they have a finite life span. Also, the batteries are nickel hydride. This is an environmental contaminate.

So when your Hybrid goes kaput, those batteries are now pollution by themselves, and the world is still in a state of deforestation. And most likely you still had to run it on gasoline part of the time. Yes it used less, but how effective was it, really?

Only stop and go city traffic in a hybrid that can run on electric power would really be efficient, and there is still the battery problem. But most people I know with hybrids do not live downtown: they are suburbanites that commute to work. On highways. Doing highway speeds. Speeds that require the gas engine to come on in most hybrids.

My '97 Civic gets an overall 32 to 34 mpg (~300 miles on 10 gallons), including suburban, urban, and highway driving. Rare A/C usage, slow acceleration, and mild driving. I didn't pay any hybrid prices! However, it's with this hectic driving nowadays you won't get your optimal fuel consumption...

cody

Tom L,

Interesting point. I was wondering where you were going with that one.

You're absolutely right though. They never talk about the batteries for the hybrids. I read all the time about the problems with disposing of spent laptop batteries, but for some reason these never get mentioned. Maybe they're magic batteries... ^^

I still think diesels are the way to go to reduce fossil fuel consumption, help the environment, and reduce dependency on foreign oil. Hell, even biodiesel is better than ethanol energy content-wise. They burn cleaner than gas engines for the most part, with the exception being the soot (carcinogen, as is everything else...), and they last twice as long.

J

Nameless,
My 07 conventional one does that number too, while driving 100% in suburban cities. But I hope you do realize my 07 is heavier than your 97. And so does the Hybrid model.

Yeah, unfortunately that must suck...

C Bolan

2006 Civic hybrid w 8000 miles.Mixed Interstate & Urban driving w many trips over very steep mountains on seconday roads. Summer mileage high 40's (abt 47). Winter mileage very low 40's (abt 42). Generally 10 mpg better than our 2007 Civic EX which we replaced with 2007 CR-V. Much prefer Civic hybrid over two Prius we drove coast to coast.
South central PA. Usually drive speed limit + 5 mph indicated. Calculate mpg every fill-up.

rangerxlt

"I however think that hybrids need to be stopped. Truth is that they are, as they are now, just a feel good tactic for the public, with very little to return in the way of helping the environment. Yes, they get great gas mileage, but you had to pay a premium for the car that you will not recuperate quickly. How does that play into the enviroment, you ask?"

It doesn't play into the environment. Car manufacturers say it's good for the environment just to get more sales.

rangerxlt

My opinion on the Civic Hybrid is that it should be discontinued and the HX should be brought back.

ziggy

I'm still waiting for plug-in hybrid. I think this would be best solution. For now I'm driving 98HX with mileage around 37-40mpg's and believe me this is fun car to drive a specially when you get on second gear to 50mph...
I think HX was hidden treasure, to bad they stopped producing it.

ziggy

I'm still waiting for plug-in hybrid. I think this would be best solution. For now I'm driving 98HX with mileage around 37-40mpg's and believe me this is fun car to drive a specially when you get on second gear to 50mph...
I think HX was hidden treasure, to bad they stopped producing it.

ziggy

I'm still waiting for plug-in hybrid. I think this would be best solution. For now I'm driving 98HX with mileage around 37-40mpg's and believe me this is fun car to drive a specially when you get on second gear to 50mph...
I think HX was hidden treasure, to bad they stopped producing it.

CP

I think hybrids are a good first step in reducing reliance on fossil fuels and one part of an overall approach in such a reduction. One aspect of the hybrids that I do not like is some people buy them then just drive them more than their previous car b/c the individual cost of gas goes down. In other words, instead of driving their existing car less, a consumer might buy a hybrid and drive it more, and there is no difference in the CO2 emissions from their car.

At the same time, I like hybrids for two main reasons: my understanding is a car with lower displacement will produce lower emissions than a car with greater displacement and any engine that shuts off while idling is better than a car that continues to burn gas while idling. Until there is a better option, this is great.

I agree with ziggy--the best solution is a plug-in hybrid. Hypothetically, if a car can go 25 miles on a single charge, and the owner does not exceed 25 miles on a charge, then that is another day with no CO2 emissions from a vehicle. Sure, there will be increased demands for power if more people start buying plug-in hybrids, but dedicated power plants transferring energy to a car will always be more efficient than the process to transport, refine, etc., oil products.

I think clean diesel is going to be great for air quality, will always be needed for trucks, and the increased mileage in cars is a big plus, but I can't get too happy about a source that will continue to put out CO, CO2 and NOX emissions (although in reduced levels).

The ultimate solution will be a combination of plug-in hybrids, public transportation, living closer to work, and really high gas prices--and they are not high enough now to cause wholesale changes in driving behavior.

Craig

I have 9341 miles on my 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid. With 1/3 in town and 2/3 highway driving at speeds from 63-73 mph I have averaged 43.51 from new. This is from actual records not the mpg meter in the car. I don't drive it any different than any other car. I feel the car is worth every penny. After the Federal tax credit the car costs no more that an EX. The nice thing about the Civic is that it is not a compromise. The build quality is as good as it gets.

GJCATL

OK, I enjoy a healthy discourse on just about any topic as anyone else does and I'm also for the ability of anyone to post their opinion to the internet, but really, in my opinion, this is getting silly.

Why does everyone beat up on hybrid owners for paying a premium for a car that they WANT to drive? If the return in fuel savings, no matter how insignificant in some peoples' eyes, is worth $3,000 to them, what do we care? Let's say I don't like sunroofs or premium sound systems on my cars, but you do. Maybe you are willing to pay $3,000 for those options because they make you feel better, who am I to judge you and your personal choices? In point of fact we know this: the hybrid model will get better MPG than the straight gas model. Maybe that's 1 MPG, maybe that's 20 MPG. If I want to feel good about a couple extra MPG, great. I'll pay for it. Just like you might choose to pay extra for a sunroof, stereo, chrome wheels, etc - because you like them. Because they make you feel good. Maybe you like loud music and your neighbor likes to contribute in some way to the environmental movement. If you choose to add on a $2,000 set of wheels, should I insult you for not being able to adequately recuperate the cost of those wheels? No. You paid a premium because you feel good about the added style or driving dynamics - two factors which will not stop the depreciation of your vehicle - at least not enough to justify the initial expense! Maybe the car will trade in for a few more bucks because you have nicer wheels - there's a few bucks for you. Maybe your neighbor's hybrid saves them a few bucks on gas each week - there's a few bucks for them. You both spent a few bucks over standard purchase price, felt good about your purchase in your own special way, then went on with your lives.

If the diesel model isn't available in the US, petition your favorite brand to bring it to the US. Do you really think that Honda doesn't bring the Civic diesel here because they WANT to sell a more expensive to build, more technically complicated model here? No. They bring over what sells. Right now, that is hybrids. Are they ignorant to the growing desire for diesel? No. They researched it and figured that the market was in bigger cars, like the Accord. Maybe consumers will want a diesel Civic and they'll import that too.

I thought about getting a hybrid. I thought the idea of geting some extra MPG was kind of cool - almost like a personal challenge. I drove the Prius and the Civic. I didn't buy either because I thought they were a little "wierd" - I didn't like the way they looked, inside or out. I considered the Accord, but didn't like the way it looked. In the end, I gave up on the hybrid idea and bought an Acura TSX. It's a great car and it gets decent MPG. My MPG is never what was advertised because I tend to drive fast and have a heavy foot. Do I get to sue Acura because I don't get advertised MPG? Nope - I'm the idiot that presses the pedal too hard...or more appropriately, I drive the way that I WANT to drive, not the way that the EPA says I COULD drive. Maybe that is what is happening with these lawyer-happy hybrid owners. They are driving their hybrids like any regular car and are mad because the car isn't saving them from their own bad, life long, hard to break habits.

For the most part, a hybrid drivetrain is an option, just like anything else you add on to a car, so please, please, please - think of it as such. Then, focus your anger and brainpower on solving virtually any other problem on earth.

My car was $30,000. Yours might be $60,000. Do I think you are stupid for paying twice as much for a car that gets you from point A to point B no better or faster than my car? Am I stupid for paying double the cost of what some new economy cars cost? No. It's a free country. I got what I want, you got what you want and your neighbor got what they want. Hopefully, we all feel good about what we got. From there, we should all be able to go on with our lives.

Buy what you want. Drive what you want. Hate a product if you want. No big deal. But, don't insult a person for buying something that simply isn't your cup of tea...

Len

Mhy 2004 Civic Hybrid has been getting typical mileage both in town and on the highway. For the last week, however, there has been a dramatic drop in mileage. Yesterday, I filled the tank. then I drove 30 miles and filled it again. It took 3.7 gallons. something is seriously wrong. Any ideas?

David

Hmm. Most of my driving in my Honda Civic Hybrid (2006/7) model has been either several hundred miles of interstate or other good highway, or the mile and a half to the laundromat, followed by the same mile and a half an hour later.

For the in-town, I get mid-thirties with a cold car in winter. In the summer, it seems to be about 42 mpg. For the long trips, 50 mpg if I'm doing between 60 and 65 mph is quite reasonable, though E10 gasoline knocks that down by about 5 mpg. I've pushed 55 mpg at 65 mph with a well broken in vehicle, going through Pennsylvania and Maryland. However, the Chicago tolls usually kill mileage pretty badly, and the rest of Illinois doesn't quite get it back up.

David

Oh, yeah. That's off the little mileage meter, too. When I actually calculate things out, they usually get better.

ralph

From LA county in socal...we have a 2007 civic hybrid and get 37 to 45 mpg a tank. traffic impedes higher mileage as does running the air and driving with my wifes driving habits (hard stops lead foot starts). I have also found, as david above noted, that the running mileage meter shows lower mpg than what I calculate when filling up; about 2-3 mpg low when getting mileage in the high 30's and only about .5 low when getting close to 45 mpg.

JAN

I am only getting 31.4 MPG on my civic hybrid. What is going on? Dealer says it won't get good mileage until after 5000 miles. I think air conditioning shouldn't make the outcome 20 mpg less. Any suggestions? Is something wrong with our car?

JAN

I am only getting 31.4 MPG on my civic hybrid. What is going on? Dealer says it won't get good mileage until after 5000 miles. I think air conditioning shouldn't make the outcome 20 mpg less. Any suggestions? Is something wrong with our car?

Tab

I was averaging 42 mpg this summer driving 70% city and 30% highway in my 2007 Civic Hybrid. Now that I have driven a total of 9000 miles and the Indianapolis November temperatures have dipped down into the 40s, my average has plumetted to 36 mpg. This is 23 mpg lower than the advertised EPA 49/50 mpg. Other this relatively poor gas mileage, I enjoy driving this car.

the adjusted 2008 numbers are more realistic at 40/45 mpg city/highway.

J

The Hybrid got 36?
My conventional one gets down from 34 to 32 in the winter with 100% city now.

craig trevillyan

I have a yakima bike rack and the average on and off the freeway is between 30 and 32. no more and really....no less. Think about it if you are getting a roof top mount with fairing.

Kevin Ryan

I love my Civic Hybrid. I average 47mpg and have gotten as much as 52mpg. I firmly believe that higher mileage can be achieved in any car by modifying your driving habits. I've read articles from hybrid owners complaining that the mileage just isn't good to people like me who bost 52mpg. The cars aren't that different, the drivers are.

There are many websites that re-teach you how drive the way that a hybrid is meant to be driven for best economy. Simple things like, 1. Initially accelerate to speed a little more rapidly (to take advantage of the electric motor) as opposed to graduating up to speed and then feathering the gas to maintain your speed. 2. Coast or find that soft point where you're running on the electric motor as much as possible. 3. Anticipate traffic, dont be in a hurry. Look ahead to see what's going on. Avoid sudden braking and accellerating. 4. Pay close attention to the instant MPG meter and make it a game to keep it as high as possible. 5. Listen to soft music :). It really does help.

Joeblow

To the several people who think the "clean diesel" cars that are supposed to be arriving are better than the Civic Hybrid - you're wrong. First, there's no such thing as clean diesel - it's a contradiction in terms. Second, if diesel is so great it wouldn't have failed in the U.S. multiple times. Don't try to steal the Civic Hybrid's obvious success by advocating a failed technology of the past. The civic is here and now and working - with clean diesel it's believe it when you see it, and so far you can only buy the overpriced Mercedes Benz E-class and overpriced Volkswagen tourareg diesel that gets 15 mpg. When you consider the dollar a gallon extra for diesel fuel, the Civic looks even better.

J

Kevin,
Welcome to the league!

People just need to understand the difference a driver can make with the same vehicle.
I got 38MPG on last tank and the advertised number is 25. Yet, people are still getting 18, 19, 20. Read the tachometer when driving helps a lot!

Velma

We own 4 HCH's in my household (3-2007 and 1 2005). We all love our cars. None of us like others to drive our cars but because we all have different gas mileage we have switched to see if it's the driver or the car. 3 drivers drive 25miles (10 miles hwy 15 city) one way (same location different wrk hours ) Car pooling not an option. 1 driver (Blue 07) drives 10miles to work (city). We all have different driving habits.

Tan 05 HCH driver (very patient) drives slower than everyone and he gets consistant highest 45-50mpg and over on all three 07's and 39mpg on his 05.

Tan 07 HCH gets the consistant lowest at 36-39mpg (youngest driver). We all get higher mpg when we drive his car. He gets 40-42mpg on Silver and Blue 07 HCH. He's respects his parents cars too relaxed in his own.

Blue HCH is inconsistant impatient driver with range from 33-40mpg (local roads lots of stop and go) on his car but 40-42mpg on other 07's.

Silver HCH (me) 42-44mpg in all 07's. Highest mpg in my own car.

I did notice last summer when cars parked in sun all day battery level lower when going home from work. I concluded that the heat drains the electric battery especially when it is outside and I go to lunch locally and turn on AC (only if passenger in car), park it outside again til time to go home (I don't turn on AC until around 10 miles into trip going home). My lowest number on battery gauge was 2 bars going home from work in 90 degree weather. In summer heat covered parking is better for electric battery level.

Blue HCH has worst summer MPG since buy the time he turns on AC he's home (no covered parking option during the day).

Highest charge on battery and mpg when temperature is 30-65 degrees.

Recent previous cars 06 VW bug, 06 Ridgeline, 03 Escape, 04 CRV respectively.

Bill Hardy

I just bought an 08 Honda Civic Hybrid. I travel on Freeways (50%) and around town (50%) and drive appx. 2000 miles a month. Here is the mileage that I have gotten:

Using standard driving techniques: 1) Fwy 45.0, 2) Around town 40.0 with the average for both on the first tank of gas 42.6 MPG.

I was intrigued by the hypermiling, so I tried a few of the techniques this past week. Here are my stats for that: 1) Fwy - 58 MPG, 2) Around town - 43 MPG with an average of 50.1 MPG.

I almost got a ticket because I slowed down to 40 MPH on an uphill run (doing the constant load technique), driving on a road rated for 65 MPH. Fortunately, the police were sympathetic.

I am trying not to annoy too many drivers. However, the techniques seem to work.

These numbers were for June 2008 in California, so it was temperate.

"NiMH batteries are commonly considered to have lower environmental impact than NiCd batteries, due to absence of toxic cadmium. The overall environmental impact of mining the various alternate metals that form the negative electrode may be more or less than cadmium, depending on the metal.

Most industrial nickel is recycled, due to the relatively easy retrieval of the metal from scrap , and due to its high value."

jboo

I have a steve caballero skateboard and it gets really good gas mileage. I was also thinking about horses and donkeys and how they get very good gas mileage. I was wondering why we don't all simply revert back to riding horses/donkeys for transportation? Is it because of their emissions? Or is it because most horses/donkeys are only one or two seaters? With all our technology these days, can't we develop a sphincter filter to insert into horses/donkeys to convert their carbon footprint right at the source. Furthermore, imagine the elaborate horse/donkey buggies we could build out of titanium and rice. Not to mention the hybrid horse/donkey, which is part livestock, part robot, that would inevitably be developed by government issued mad scientists and blown to smithereens by the terrorists.

don sever

I drive a prius.
I get 52.5 MPG
I paid $23500.
I got tax break as I bought it in 2005.
I drive 30,000 miles per year.
I more than saved the cost of the premium I paid in gas as I have driven over 70,000 miles.
My car can now sell for more than I paid resale is unbelievable.
I have had no problems mechanicallly only did oil changes no recalls no problems.
I am typical other than I drive a lot.

Any one who feels hybrids are poor investment can't add.

Yes a plug in Hybrid would be even better and I will buy the first one.

Nick from Iowa

Why has no one mentioned the Bio-Diesel Hybrid. The CEO of Honda said that this is the final say in current technology (Cars built out of metal). Then if they use plug in hybrid technology in addition to that, there will be even more benefit. Plus, creating a demand for auto mechanics never hurt an economy!

Hybrid Guy

I have to agree that the driver makes the biggest mpg difference. Driving my 2007 Civic hybrid conservatively in Chicago suburbs during summer nets me 55-57 mpg, combined city/highway. I've also seen only low 40's mpg in winter and when driving w/o concern about mpg. Conservative driving habits, however, are sometimes problematic: Tailgaters who are aghast that you're only doing 60 (in the right lane!) in a 55 (not 70+) or not racing to the next red light are sometimes difficult to avoid. Also, an extra 5-7 minutes is required for my 60 mile round trip commute to work.

I was thrilled to trade my Mercedes and give up creature comforts for the mileage of the Civic Hybrid. I have been happy with Hondas in the past. My excitement died quickly when my mileage topped out at 28 mpg and usually only got to 22mpg around town. When I took it to the Honda service center I found many Civic Hybrids with the same issue. I have already spent too much time at the dealer and service center without any help but with alot of inconvenience and frustration.


Rick Erickson

I have a 2008 Civic Hybrid. it is driven mainly on the highway, slightly hilly. My wife gets 55 mpg when she drives it and I can get 65. It's all in how you drive it. You can see on the hypermiler's websites they get close to 100 mpg. I told the dealer they should give classes on driving the car, you drive it like a normaal car, you get normal results. After learning the Civic, we get 36 mpg with our 6 cyl 2007 Camry with the AC on!

kevin stout

I have a 2007 Civic. I live in hilly San Diego. I have a 50 mile round trip commute, mostly highway with traffic. When I drive it like a normal car I get about 38 mpg. If I think about my driving and pay attention to the gauges that tell me my mileage I get up to 45 mpg. If I were to stay at 55 I'm sure I would get even better. It occurred to me that if all cars were manufactured with the mileage gauges standard, people's driving habits would change and save a lot of fuel that is wasted through poor driving style.

Bob

If I zero the trip and the mileage meter when I fill up, and then I fill up the next time and calculate my MPG, the mileage is better.

I get around 45MPG on the mileage meter for the tank of fuel, and around 52MPG using the amount of gas to fill up the car and the mileage that I went. The car does not seem to vary much from this no matter what the road conditions are, highway or city...

Lisa

I have a 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid. I was getting an average of 42 - 44 mpg. That is until my car was involved in an accident. My son was taking his drivers test and was hit from behind as he was turning left, back into the drivers license center; spinning my car around. The car was in the body shop for a month.
After getting it back from the body shop, my car is only getting around 35 mpg. We have had it to the Honda dealership 3 times, and the guy just says, "There is nothing wrong with the car" He said, he wished that the car didn't show you an average of mpg, because it just makes people fuss about it too much.
I don't know what to do about the problem.
We told him reg. civics get this amount of mpg, but this is a hybrid and should do better than 35 mpg. He had no answers for us.
Does anyone have any suggestions.

Red

Lisa, I'm not a Honda expert, but I would ask the insurance company for a new battery pack. Obviously the integrated motor assist is still operating at some level because it acts as the car's starter motor too. But it's very possible the type of impact and g-forces from the accident might have damaged the internal workings of some of the traction batteries that run the hybrid system. Because the batteries are wired in series, just one bad battery will ruin the performance of the entire battery pack and can even overheat and pose a fire hazard. The only other factor that comes to mind is the possible misalignment of the front or rear tires - if the car wasn't pulled back into shape correctly you could have one tire pointing slightly off, scrubbing off your mileage. I would take the car to a service center with the best alignment rack and have them measure the location of each of the tires to make sure everything was fixed correctly and is where the factory intended it to be. Good luck...

Lisa

Thanks, Red
The woman who hit my car had no car insurance, so we had to go with my uninsured motorist coverage. I doubt my insurance com. will pay for a new battery pack unless it is proven that is the problem. The "Expert" at the car dealership said that if the battery wasn't working correctly there would be a light come on, on the dash board. He just dismissed it completely. But I have been driving the car for a year and a half and know there is a difference.
What type of service center would you take it to? I would have thought the dealership would know what to do, but in this case I guess not.
Thanks again for your help,
Lisa

DodgeFan

Sometimes Dealers don't want to admit problems because it isn't worth their time. I would go to different dealership and make it a warrentee issue instead of an insurance issue. I would tell them battery problem and withhold the accident issue. I heard of battery drop-off in performance too after the first year.

Red

Lisa, I agree with DodgeFan's good suggestion -take it to another dealer and have them check the whole hybrid system under warranty. The hybrid battery pack is supposed to operate at 154 volts and they should be able to easily test it. Also, you might want to consider how the car drives now compared to before the accident - is the acceleration slower? That would also indicate a loss of electric boost, and also look for any clues on the instrument panel display - for instance, is the car still able to go to electric only operation when you're driving on a flat road at 15 to 20 mph? That's apparently the only situation the Civic hybrid can go electric only, and you'll know by the glowing bar graph on the instrument panel. If it can't do that, you have a real argument with the dealer that things aren't right.

Lisa

Thanks for all the great advice. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Lisa

Branan Martin

I have owned a 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid for about five months. I live in Chattanooga TN with moderate hills in the area. The car averages about 43.5 MPG's for day-in-day-out driving. I have taken it on two trips driving about 70 mph. Do this has produced between 46-47 mpg. This was driving through the Smokey Mountains. One note, I typically average about 1.5 mpg's better then the mpg gauge on the dash. This has been very consistant so if you are just going by the electronic gauge, it may be off like mine. I have been very happy with the car and thirlled with the gas mileage.

Tabitha

Actually the Honda Civic Hybrid is better for the enviroment then its non hybrid conter part. It has a smog index of 0.01 where are regular civics have a smog index of .40 (don't remember exactly). So it produces almost 0 smog.

Theresa

I'm sure my problems are with the way I drive. But, in town, 31-33 miles/gal....what am I doing wrong? And the Auto-stop doesn't come on everytime I stop, which I find annoying. On the hiway I get around 40-42mi/gal; but even that is low.
I'm beginning to think I'd be just as well off with a standard Civic model!!

Theresa

Bob, I just read your comment about the mileage meter in the car!!! I'll try that the next time I fill up!

CWagner

2007 Honda Civic Hybrid Owners:
Honda is aware of an issue with the control arm, however, they are not giving a recall notice. I was told they are not making the owners aware of the problem, because it is "intermittent".
I went in for an oil change and tire rotation at 14,000 miles, and was told that the inspection indicator on the dash was requesting that a full vehicle inspection be conducted. Since my gas mileage had went from 41mpg to 34mpg, I agreed to pay the $150.00 to Sunnyside Honda in Parma OH for the inspection. My vehicle at that time was only 8mos old and straight off the boat directly to me.
Following the inspection, I was told the control arm was defective, and that both rear tires needed to be replaced as a result. The dealership would only replace the control arm and not the rear tires, since the vehicle was over 12,000 miles.
I contacted American Honda customer relations and was told that the tires would not be covered. Why? Because I did not get a tire rotation sooner, and furthermore, that factory Honda tires do not have a mileage rating. This ill logic was the case managers conclusion for not covering the tire replacement. Overall, I paid out over $300.00 for Honda's negligence.
As you can well understand, I am not a happy and proud Honda Civic Hybrid owner at this time. To all that read this, I hope you will get the control arm checked. This is a grave safety issue and Honda Motors is severely negligent to its Honda owners. Personally, I feel they're customer care philosophy, is customer care"less".

Since then, my gas mileage has further decreased to 32 miles to the gallon. FYI, it's not the weather. I moved to NC and it's still dropping. I'm absolutely disgusted because I could have saved a lot of money by purchasing a non-hybrid vehicle, and probably with higher gas mileage.

George Fulmore

We just bought a 2007 Civic Hybrid used with about 18k miles. In trip of about 70 miles, we got just under 45 mpg. It seems fairly easy to get that driving on freeways or highways without a lot of stops. I can even get over 40 in town. It appears to be a very simple car to maintain, as well. We are very happy with it so far.

mike

I've made several very long-haul trips in this car (1000-3000 miles)and the best mileage I've managed over many hundreds of miles at a time is 52 mpg! I can routinely get 50 mpg or so on the highway by watching my speed. This is with the tires pumped up 3-5 psi above the recommended prssure and with a light foot on the gas (I usually try to go 5 mph UNDER the limit.) Best mileage is at 55 mph. However, increasing speed noticeably reduces mileage, as does heavy a/c use.

Recently it's been in the low 100's all summer here in Texas and I've have the a/c on all the time I'm in the car, so around town I'm down to around 40 mpg these days. In the winter I usually get about 45 mpg around town.

There is one down side to all this. The Hybrid's Integrated Motor Assist battery has only a short range of charge. Quite a few times the battery charge has gone down to almost zero in the extreme heat here. It is no fun having to try to get this fairly heavy car up to speed with nothing more than the 110 hp engine. In fact, it's not only aggravating, it can be downright scary! Keep in mind, though, that if you live in a more moderate climate this should not be a problem.

Overall, I'm very happy I bought this car. It's much heavier and more substantial than Honda's new "Insight", and I highly recommend the Honda Civic Hybrid.

mike

I forgot to mention that I have 41,000 miles on my 2007 HCH. What I have learned in that time is that mileage depends on a huge number of variable, not all of them within our control:

- hot or cold temperature;
- terrain of the ground; flat vs. hilly;
- speed;
- air conditioner use;
- driving style: normal, easy, aggressive;
- traffic;
- and so on.

I will also tell you that I recently did a 3000 mile trip in a Honda Element (looks like a bread truck and no aerodynamics at all.) The vehicle is rated at 25 mpg on the highway. I averaged 32 mpg by observing the rules I mentioned in the previous post: inflate the tires, never speed, use the a/c only when necessary, etc.

People do not buy vehicles only for a single reason, so don't fall for the critics' argument that you'll never recoup the extra cost of a hybrid by any savings in gasoline. What you will do is have a safe car (airbags everywhere, etc.) with all sorts of modern conveniences (trip computers, etc.) that gets great mileage and is made by a company that produces cars of rock-solid reliability. The Honda Civic Hybrid is a great car (and, frankly, so is the Honda Element!) Different strokes for different folks. Happy Motoring!

West

I purchased a 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid with 31k miles on it certified used from a local Honda Dealership several weeks ago. I realized that I’d be moving soon and my commute from work would be jumping from 14 miles a day to about 60 miles ago so I had to trade in my gas guzzling Chrysler 300 (I loved that car), but my average of 17mpg just wasn’t going to cut the new commute.
I don’t have a lot of money, but I don’t mind paying the extra couple of grad on a car payment over the course of time to put money in my pocket week to week on gas for the increased commute. It’s a personal preference when dealing my own finances. That’s why I went for the Hybrid and not a normal Civic. 5 to 10 more mpg is a big deal to me.
I miss my 300 so much, because it doesn’t feel the same, not even close, however, it’s still a nice car. I live in the mountains so my commute is up and down a lot of hills and on and off highways. I’d say 2/3 highway, 1/3 city driving and I’m averaging 45mpg.
(For those of you with gas mileage issues, turn on the mpg gauge and consider the way you drive. This vehicle really requires you to drive it very relaxed to maximize efficiency… and if that’s not it, I’d imagine something must be wrong with your car. Try a having a different dealership look at it)
The car is fantastic in that sense and I’m growing to love it because of that. It took some getting use to with the motor shut off when you’re foot it on the break and it can jolt a little, but it’s manageable. My single biggest complaint though is the seats, and, mind you, this is probably only because I’m coming out of a 300. For shorter trips they’re fine, but for longer ones, the fact that they’re so firm, I think, is going to take some longer getting use to. They’re just awkwardly shaped and uncomfortable for me. I wonder if I can take the unusually large seats out of the 300? Obviously not, but, otherwise, a great car I’d recommend to anyone who’s in the market for a hybrid or just a high gas mileage car that’s not hideous like the Prius.

Zack

Apparently you didn't consider moving closer to your job? It's people like you who are ruining the planet. A chyrsler 300 driven 8 miles a day to work is better for the environment than a Civic hybrid driven 60, clogging up our roads and slowing down everybody else, increasing carbon emissions.

For me, driving a hybrid was something I really wanted to do, because I really require an SUV.

I loved my 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and it killed me to give it up. But I have been playing the mileage game ever since I first had the gauge in a car. But even driving down all hills in neutral, I was only able to achieve 15.8 over the life of the car. Which I have heard from others is very good for that car... but in my opinion is PATHETIC for such a small SUV, that doesn't even have an optional 3rd row, or seats that fold all the way down.

So... I was on the hunt for a 7 seater SUV hybrid, with an optional 3rd row, where all the seats folded all the way down. ANd I found it in my Toyoya Highlander Hybrid.

I have the 2010. It is a beautiful car, with great features (although not rain sensitive wipers.. which I am having put in after market on Monday).

I purchased it in January, and in the winter months with mixed driving averaged between 24-26 mpg. Now that the car is broken in, and it's warmer... between the months of April and October I am averaging 27-31 mpg. The car tells me my lifetime average is 28.3 right now. I AM EXTREMELY PLEASED WITH THESE NUMBERS. On the high end, its DOUBLE what my jeep was getting, and it's bigger. Only 4 inches longer, but has better use of interior space.

I have carried a giant Sofa about 100 miles, and got 27.4 on that trip. It indeed does it's best between 35-55 miles per hour, as someone stated above, but does quite well on the highway too, especially if you are mindful of hills and drive gently up and let the momentum down give you speed after a hill.

Also, what used to really kill my numbers in the Jeep was traffic jams, and dropping of my son to school. Waiting in lines like that KILLED my mpg in my other cars. This car just goes in electric, like a golf cart. No gas used during these times.

and NOTHING coming out of my tailpipe. This SUV burns 80% cleaner than most other SUV's in it's size class. And that to me is worth every penny.

I will cross the battery bridge when I get to it, but I have heard they have a long life, from other Highlander owners. So we'll see, but to me it is just part of any car's maintenance. As far as the disposal. I know that my dealership disposes of them in a responsible way. But we as a nation need to do better on disposal of everything PERIOD.

I also don't understand why everyone thinks I have to justify the extra cost, or "make my money back", or that driving a hybrid isn't worth it. For me, as it happens, I will make the money back, because I keep cars for over 7 years typically.

I wanted to buy an SUV available now, that I would not be upset about it's mileage in the year 2020, which if things go well will be how long I keep this car.

I cried getting rid of my Jeep, but this is the best thing we ever did. One time I had to rent a minivan to drive up to Boston on a mini vacation, because my jeep couldn't fit everyone (my cousins were here from Europe). Now two families fit in my SUV, and I can go wherever I want, and use less gas to boot! There's my money back right there. Or the time I had to take my 55" flat screen to the repair shop. That saved me the $50 charge that I would have had if they had to pick it up and drop it off. Not to mention all of the furniture delivery charges that I have been able to avoid, by picking things up myself.

Pays for itself easily, and burns cleaner. A+ No brainer for me.

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