Saturn Prices Aura Green Line Hybrid Sedan

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The Saturn Aura Green Line, GM’s first hybrid sedan, goes on sale this April with a $22,045 price tag, excluding the $650 destination charge. That means the Green Line and its four-cylinder engine and electric motor hybrid system costs $1,700 more than the base Aura XE, which comes with a standard V-6 engine. 

The Green Line is estimated to get 28/35 mpg city/highway, while the Aura XE gets 20/30 mpg. That’s still far less than the Toyota Camry Hybrid’s 40/38 mpg, but the starting price of the Saturn is $4,000 less. The Honda Accord Hybrid gets an identical 28/35 mpg rating, but is tuned for more of a performance-oriented driving experience and starts over $30,000.

What do you think? Is the Aura Green Line’s price just right?

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Jordan

When the Nissan Altima gets 26/35 mpg and the Honda Accord gets 26/34 mpg and the Toyota Camry gets 24/34 mpg with NON HYBRID powertrains...its no wonder GM continues to lose market share to its asian competition. Keep up the good work GM!

If you think the Aura is pointless than the Accord hybrid is even more pointless when you consider it's price. Sure it's faster, but it delivers the same mileage as the Aura for far more money and with more complexity. BTW, the Accord doesnt get 26/34 with an automatic. I belive it gets 23/33 with auto.

atleast the aura has style!

starlightmica

The real world VueGL economy numbers I've heard of are in the low-mid 20's, and I would expect the Aura to be a little better, but not as good as the Camry Hybrid's low-mid 30's.

The price sounds right, you get as much hybrid as you pay for.

IT ADDS CHOICES TO POTENTIAL BUYS ON THE MARKET. FOR THE MOST PART, THE PRICE INCREASE OVER A CONVENTIONAL ISN'T AS SIGNIFICANT AS OTHER MAKERS. THE COST ALONE MIGHT DRAW IN CUSTOMERS. BUT THE EPA NUMBERS ARE NOT ON PAR WITH THOSE OF TOP HYBRID SEDANS OF THE JAPENESE.
SATURN IS LOOKING UP WITH IMPROVED STYLING AND DRIVING CHARACTERISTICS.

Dodgfan

I have very bad words for those that talk %^%^ out of the box about GM hybrids. They have a much greater value statement then the Japanese. Plus you can probabily still get a tax credit on GM hybrids, the asian automakers except for Nissan with their Altima have already hit the cap. With the cheaper price increase you get the additional performance increase for free.

Dodgefan,
you most certainly would get a full tax credit on a GM hybrid versus I think 1/4 the credit with a toyota right now. I believe Honda is still getting full credits though.

DodgeFan

From what I heard the Hybrid Honda Accord bombed at its price point so that doesn't surprise me. Another thing for the person who brings up the Nissan Altima. Its offered only in 8 states. a limited release. I guarrentee Indiana is not one of them,if your lucky maybe you can get it transported here for additional fee. When Nissan developes its own system instead of using Toyotas then your see a big release.

Jordan

Yes...the aura greenline is slightly cheaper than the camry hybrid...but it still only gets a couple miles per gallon better than a conventional 4 cylinder asian sedan (altima/accord/camry). Like I said before, there is a reason why you are not able to get the full tax credit on Toyota and Honda hybrids...they are POPULAR! (sans accord). ALl you GM fans can try to defend the greenline series but they offer insignificant gains in economy over nonhybrid asian competition and that is why they do not sell very well and GM must already discount them.

J

sheth,
FYI, the Accord Automatic is 24/34.
And what does that mean "pointless when considering the price"
It kicked the IS250's butt but still cost less and it is larger inside and out.
Why do people pay big bucks for their cars? Usually because of the performance or the feeling of owning an expensive car.

Cody

Hmm, the base Aura was marketed as a V-6 mid-sized sedan for the price of a 4-cylinder sedan from other makers, which was pretty accurate. What was lost was fuel economy, at the expense of power. Now they're marketing the greenline as a slightly higher priced sedan with hybrid equipment (tax credit), and it gets a little better fuel economy than the competitors' 4-cylinder sedans. Sounds logical, they've filled a gap.

I wonder what it would look like if someone compared an Aura Greenline against similarly equipped 4-cylinder competition (minus the hybrid tech obviously). I think they might just price out about the same, but I haven't done the homework yet to back that up.

What's the arguement against this car again? I think people will find that these sedans are going to be quite popular too... Stop throwing stones just because it's a domestic please.

Toyota is at half the credit through the end of March. In April it drops to one-quarter.

Honda to my knowledge is still at full credit.

Has the pricing of options been released, or just the base price?

Troy

My take:

I love seeing any new technology that provides more MPG. Now, if you're really concerned about fuel economy you'll buy a Civic LX, Chevy Aveo, Fit, Yaris, Accent, Scion xA or xB, or Nissan Versa. All, several thousand dollars cheaper than the Aura, Camry or Accord. They are not Hybrids and guess what else? They too fit 4-5 passengers. If you want a hybrid just because it says hybrid... Hybrid... A buzz word...It's your money.

Rob

Ahem.

In the G6 (on the same platform) the 2.4L I-4 used in the Aura gets 23/33 mpg. Using the I-4's of Japanese competitors to compare against the Aura is nonsense. I wouldn't champion Nissan's hybrid system either. They stole/purchased it from Toyota. Frankly, the highway mileage is pretty close to par, where city mileage is a little behind the competition. Big woop. It's going to provide at least a 5 mpg jump in city driving on a consistent basis. That is enough to justify its addition into the Saturn Lineup.

GM is also building new hybrid systems. In fact, they're building two new ones for the Saturn Green Line. So, this is probably just a stop gap measure until the new hybrid systems are perfected and can be instituted into GM vehicles.

Drew

GM's MPG ratings have always been slightly under rated while Toyota's and Honda's have been over rated. It's not really any manufacturer's fault as the EPA conducts the test. Chevy Cobalts with a manual are rated at 25/34 yet in real world they generally exceed their highway mileage. 38mpg highway is common and 40mpg has been occasionally reported. Even the Chevy Malibu with the same 4 cylinder setup minus the hybrid bits is rated at 34mpg highway yet is regularly reported to achieve 36mpg. I would expect that the Aura Greenline will be able to do better than what the EPA states.

It's not GM's fault the rating is low. The EPA's testing process was already proven to be flawed.

Jordan

Oh brother...another one thinking that the EPA is out to get GM and help Toyota. When will you admit that Toyota makes superior automobiles to GM? When they pass them as #1 in the world or when they are more profitable in one month than GM is all year or when they get recalled less or when Lexus wins the number one brand in reliability?

Troy

Great... Another bias towards brand bashing. When will it stop? Probably never. I think it's refreshing to see a company not charging such a high premium for it's hybrid vehicle. I can't justify spending thousands of dollars more for a hybrid vehicle for a couple MPG's better than the non-hybrid model. You have to drive alot of miles to save enough on fuel costs to offset the cost of the hybrid verus the non-hybrid model. So, the Green-line gets a thumbs up from me. It's priced reasonable. This raises another question. How many MPG can you actually get out of a non-hybrid vehicle? I'm sure technology is already out there and probably under lock and key....

Paul

The Aura is a stupid name and the car is bland looking. Mark my words the car will not sell well. Not a bad try for Saturn however this is not the car to compete against the Accord and Camry.

Rob

Bland? Actually, the car looks quite attractive when its standing next to a Camry or Accord. I'd probably consider it the most attractive affordable mid-sizer in the game IMHO. It's not supposed to knock the Accord or the Camry off its mountain top. It's just the 2nd phase in GM's attack on the mid size segment. Saturn is not a mainstream brand...yet. So of course it's only going to move about 100k units per year. The third phase, the Chevy Malibu, is mainstream. Can the next Malibu become the best selling car in America? It can, but the truth is that by the time the Malibu comes out, GM will be selling more midsizers than Toyota.

J

Rob
"It can, but the truth is that by the time the Malibu comes out, GM will be selling more midsizers than Toyota."
Did you happen to forget about saying that applies to U.S. only?
When looking globally, I do not believe that will be the case. Thanks.

JMLinden

Personally, I think the Aura Green Line is pointless. For 4K more than non-hybrid midsize sedans, it gives only a few more MPG.

Although I think the Aura is a very well-designed car, it has no to very little chance of domination in this highly competitive midsize segment. Camry/Accord are simply too popular (for good reasons too), for new entries to have much success.

FYI, just a comparison I found:
http://automobiles.honda.com/tools/compare/results_overview.aspx?ModelName=Accord+Hybrid&ModelYear=2007&AICGroupNum=5014&AICNum1=20183&LastState=%2Ftools%2Fcompare%2Fselect_competitor_custom.aspx%3FModelName%3DAccord%2BHybrid%26ModelYear%3D2007%26AICGroupNum%3D5014%26AICNum1%3D20183%26LastState%3D%26AICNum2%3D19002%26AICNum3%3D21534&AICNum2=19002&AICNum3=21534&Filter=&Mode=&Photo=&Change=

cody

JM,

You asserted that the Aura Greenline was pointless due to its costing $4k over other non-hybrid midsize sedans. Then, you provided a comparison link showing the Greenline against the Camry and Accord Hybrids (both cost significantly MORE than the Greenline).

Well, I used your link to compare an Aura Greenline against a comparably equipped NON-HYBRID 4-banger Camry and NON-HYBRID 4-banger Accord. Guess what...the Saturn didn't cost much more than the Honda and Camry. $100 more than the Camry and $900 more than the Accord. So your price argument is pretty much out the window.

As for fuel economy, the 4-banger Honda and Toyota advertise 24 city, 34/33 highway. I've found that the EPA numbers for highway are pretty good, so most people probably see 33/34 on long trips with the cruise set. The city mileage is another story. It's dependent on stop-and-go traffic and other variables. The Aura advertises 28 city, 35 highway. Again, many will likely see 35 on the highway. However, the difference is they'll also likely visit 28 mpg in the city, thanks to the engine shutting off at stop lights and in stop and go traffic.

I'm not an import hater, but I think this sedan will easily find buyers, who will be pleasantly surprised by the fuel economy and will feel satisfied with their purchase and the application of the technology. The comparison link is below if you care to sharpshoot it...


http://automobiles.honda.com/tools/compare/results_overview.aspx?ModelName=Accord+Sedan&ModelYear=2007&AICGroupNum=4999&RURL=undefined&AICNum1=20075&LastState=%2Ftools%2Fcompare%2Fselect_competitor_custom.aspx%3FModelName%3DAccord%2BSedan%26ModelYear%3D2007%26AICGroupNum%3D4999%26RURL%3Dundefined%26AICNum1%3D20075%26LastState%3D%26AICNum2%3D18954%26AICNum3%3D21534&AICNum2=18954&AICNum3=21534&Filter=&Mode=&Photo=&Change=

Jackson

I love it when fools keep defending GM as if they can do anything from preventing Toyota from surpassing them. Toyota cut it's teeth the hard way by selling back home against the likes of Honda, Nissan and Subaru. GM couldn't even dispose of that failure known as Ford. Just as Toyota chairman, Hiroshi Okuda, said in a Forbes article two years ago, "The continuous success in the American market is directly related to our committment and performance in the eyes of our boss the American consumer."

I only owned one Toyota but quite a few GM products. I can state first hand that Mr. Okuda knows what he is talking about.

cody

Jackson,

Fools? I hope you weren't referring to me. I used a web comparison to size up the car against non-hybrid competition to show that the car was priced competitively against a comparably equipped non-hybrid Camry and Accord (actually, used Honda's site). I stated facts about fuel economy and the current flawed EPA system (which is being replaced next year with something less flawed). I did not bash the imports, which are both good cars (although I'm not a fan of the styling of either, but that's a matter of taste).

If you were referring to me, did you even read what I posted, or did you just go straight into anti-GM, Toyota and Honda are the best, so these guys are idiots for thinking otherwise and it is my civic duty to tell them so?

If you're going to post something, post something with substance. State some facts. Do some research. You based your astute post on what the Toyota chairman said. Wow, a guy responsible for selling cars saying he works for the people.... I guess we must take that as fact, because those guys never lie. If only the competition had figured out that secret formula for success...

Unless you're still in kindergarten, name calling isn't going to win any debates.

chuckbo

This is an interesting thread to follow. My interest is that I'm going to be getting a new card this year, and the two leading candidates are the Aura hybrid and the Camry hybrid.

Going into the search, my pre-opinion is that the Camry is more expensive and not as nice -- they're going to charge me for the privilege of buying a Toyota. But this discussion shows me that they're more "hybrid" than GM. I'll have to ask them how long the battery is rated to last and how much replacement batteries are.

The other advantage Saturn has going for it for me is remarkably good dealers and service. The only time I've ever been in a Toyota dealership was ten years ago before I bought this car, and they pretty much rudely brushed me off because I wasn't planning to buy a model loaded with options I didn't need. So from past experience, I'm not a Toyota fan, and I've never been thrilled with GM (except for Saturn).

To me, it's a good thing to have even a partial hybrid at a lower price so more people can choose it.

It'll be interesting to compare these perceptions to the actual decision I make in a few months.

m parmar

aura is a much better looking car than the overprice vanilla looking camrys (that is real great name). Lower cost and much better gas mileage 28 in the city vs 21 in the city for the 4 cyl camry.
The prius is years ahead for fuel economy, but the aura hybrid blows the doors off the camry.
Camrys good looking. Get your eyes checked.

Mary

I have been looking at hybrids for a couple of months on the web. I am glad that Saturn has them in their line up. I have been sold on Saturn ever since my oldest daughter was hit head on when a car came into her lane and the car was totaled but she came out of it with only a broken ankle from pushing on the break during the impact. That was the first Saturn of our family and since then we have bought 4 more. One of which my other daughter fell asleep at the wheel and was in another head on collision and she walked away with only scrapes and scratches. I don't think that the only thing you need to look at when buying a car is the gas mileage because it really doesn't matter if you get 100 miles to the gallon if in one second because of another driver or any other thing that could happen you get into an accident and don't walk away from it. I think that the Saturn is reasonably priced for a hybrid of that size, and they also have a SUV that is in the green line, the VUE.

Mary

I have been looking at hybrids for a couple of months on the web. I am glad that Saturn has them in their line up. I have been sold on Saturn ever since my oldest daughter was hit head on when a car came into her lane and the car was totaled but she came out of it with only a broken ankle from pushing on the break during the impact. That was the first Saturn of our family and since then we have bought 4 more. One of which my other daughter fell asleep at the wheel and was in another head on collision and she walked away with only scrapes and scratches. I don't think that the only thing you need to look at when buying a car is the gas mileage because it really doesn't matter if you get 100 miles to the gallon if in one second because of another driver or any other thing that could happen you get into an accident and don't walk away from it. I think that the Saturn is reasonably priced for a hybrid of that size, and they also have a SUV that is in the green line, the VUE.

Mary

I have been looking at hybrids for a couple of months on the web. I am glad that Saturn has them in their line up. I have been sold on Saturn ever since my oldest daughter was hit head on when a car came into her lane and the car was totaled but she came out of it with only a broken ankle from pushing on the break during the impact. That was the first Saturn of our family and since then we have bought 4 more. One of which my other daughter fell asleep at the wheel and was in another head on collision and she walked away with only scrapes and scratches. I don't think that the only thing you need to look at when buying a car is the gas mileage because it really doesn't matter if you get 100 miles to the gallon if in one second because of another driver or any other thing that could happen you get into an accident and don't walk away from it. I think that the Saturn is reasonably priced for a hybrid of that size, and they also have a SUV that is in the green line, the VUE.

Mary

I have been looking at hybrids for a couple of months on the web. I am glad that Saturn has them in their line up. I have been sold on Saturn ever since my oldest daughter was hit head on when a car came into her lane and the car was totaled but she came out of it with only a broken ankle from pushing on the break during the impact. That was the first Saturn of our family and since then we have bought 4 more. One of which my other daughter fell asleep at the wheel and was in another head on collision and she walked away with only scrapes and scratches. I don't think that the only thing you need to look at when buying a car is the gas mileage because it really doesn't matter if you get 100 miles to the gallon if in one second because of another driver or any other thing that could happen you get into an accident and don't walk away from it. I think that the Saturn is reasonably priced for a hybrid of that size, and they also have a SUV that is in the green line, the VUE.

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