Ford to Offer Diesel F-150

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Ford will offer a diesel engine for its light-duty F-150 pickup, likely around 2008, according to a former Ford executive in Automotive News earlier this week. The engine will come from Land Rover's diesel-powered Range Rover in Europe. It's a 3.6-liter turbodiesel V-8 that makes 267 hp and 472 pounds-feet of torque in the Range Rover – and it helps the Rover get around 31 mpg on the highway.

This marks the first U.S. light-duty pickup truck to have a diesel engine, according to Automotive News. Those who tow covet diesels for their prodigious torque and massive pulling power, and most heavy-duty pickups – like the Ford F-250/350 and the Chevy Silverado 2500/3500 – offer them. Light-duty pickups typically have regular gasoline V-8s with less torque and towing capacity. To get a sense of how diesels affect things, compare Ford's F-350 with a regular gasoline V-10 to a diesel V-8:

  • 2007 F-350 6.8L V-10: 362 hp, 457 lbs.-ft. of torque
  • Max towing capacity (4.1 axle, dual rear wheel): 13,100 – 14,100 lbs., depending on cab style
  • 2007 F-350 6.0L V-8 (diesel): 325 hp, 570 lbs.-ft. of torque
  • Max towing capacity (4.1 axle, dual rear wheel): 15,000 lbs., all cab styles

The brawniest F-150 uses Ford's 5.4-liter V-8 to make 300 hp and 365 pounds-feet of torque, and it can tow up to 10,500 pounds. Since torque has greater impact on towing than horsepower, it's likely the diesel F-150 will tow considerably more.

[Ford Will Offer Diesel in F-150, Automotive News – registration required]

By Kelsey Mays | October 13, 2006 | Comments (61)
Tags: F-150, Ford, Forecast

Comments 

Lil'Tom

This is definitely a “why didn't someone do this sooner” announcement. In addition to all that extra torque a diesel F-150 should have somewhere around 30% better fuel economy. With low sulfur diesel everywhere and biodiesel becoming more prevalent I think this is a great idea.

Paul

This sorta reminds me of 1978 when Dodge had its 250/350 diesel pickups with a 6-cylinder Mitsubishi diesel with approx 100 hp.It was a short lived experiment,and with Chrysler not sourcing its own engine,parts disappeared shortly after the engine did.With Ford in deep trouble,and thinking of selling off Land Rover,what will happen to engine availability for their future trucks? Speak nothing of parts for it come 10 years from now.Why cant Ford make its own diesel? They have been buying International diesels since 1982,you would think they have learned a few things in the past 25 years to make their own.....(why not a small displacement OHC V8 diesel?).
Their last homegrown V8 project was the 1992 Modular V8,before that it was the 1971 M-series 400....its time Ford starts making their own stuff.

Jeremy

Chevy / GMC offered a diesel in their half-ton pickups for most of the early 90s. Slow sales eventually caused them to give it up. Maybe fuel prices will make it work for Ford.

Lil'Tom

Hmm, I have no recollection of GM's half-ton diesels. Modern turbo diesels are certainly FAR better than the diesel engines from that period. There so much quieter and smoother, and they don't produce any smelly black cloud.

Thomas

I work around diesel engines everyday. Caterpillar, Cummins, International, Mitsubishi, Detroit, Kubota, John Deere, Izuzu, Perkins, ranging from 2.0 to 20.5 Litre, in semi's, reefers, track-hoes, wheel loaders, among other things. I prefer diesel engines over gas because they work better.

I know how frustrating it is getting parts for older engines, such as 3406A Caterpillar's, but that's a big engine. Plenty of big engines you can scrub around and find, but little engines? They can be just about impossible to find sometimes. I don't want that kind of headache on a small diesel truck that I would use every day (and place quite a few miles on in the process.)

Does anyone here remember the GM attempt at putting a diesel in a car? Cadillac specifically? It flopped. After a few years, they quietly discontinued the line, and people ended up taking the diesel engines out of them and putting gas engines back in. People who bought that car were looking for cheaper fuel cost, and possibly better wear and tear on the engine. They did not factor in the fact that they would have to be in that car for awhile... Most people who buy that f150 will probably want to swap out before the 200,000 mile mark.

Another option to consider, the transmission on this thing... hm, i wonder if it'll be hard to replace because it will be quite the specialty item, seeing as most diesel engines have specail transmissions for them (ie allison automatic for Duramax, Aisin for Dodge, and the powerTORX for the Ford (I am pretty sure I'm wrong for the Ford one, but it is a TORX spelling thing.) Ford transmissions after about 100,000 miles need a going over, well in my experiences they do... This will be interesting to see.

Also, people who are just looking at diesels as an option are normally very turned off by the fact that the start up cost is about 4,000.00 to 6,000.00 more then that of a gas engine.

Just a few thoughts.


segfault

I'm interested if they offer it with side airbags and AdvanceTrac.

M3

Why can't Dodge use the Mercedes diesel from the Sprinter van in the Ram 150 pickup? No it's not that powerful for towing, but it would be a great fleet truck for light duty use with outstanding fuel mileage. I also agree with Thomas, the huge up-front cost for a diesel engine would take years to recover with better fuel economy, especially since diesel fuel costs a lot more than gasoline.

Brandon H

Putting a turbodiesel in the F150 would make it the absolute perfect half-ton truck on the market. I've owned three F150's in my life and they've all been great trucks. Why not make them greater?

--BH

Frank

I can purchase Ford Diesel Ranger trucks, including crew cab versions, in almost every nation except the United States and Canada. They get about 32 miles per gallon on the Highway and are quiet. Too bad Ford denies the local folks of the United States such a fine, powerful, economical vehicle. I consider a 21 mpg gas powered Ford Ranger a real fuel hog for its size. Of course, it's just business as usual and status quo. I would not expect anymore from Ford in the U.S. The U.S. audience is "captive and is interested in nothing more than status quo". The U.S. citizens will soon forget about any sort of fuel issue. Recommend you lower your fuel efficiency. That way, you can pocket more money.

dan

the artical says "This marks the first U.S. light-duty pickup truck to have a diesel engine"
thats strange because i drive a 84' gmc serria 6.2 diesel and shes a half-ton pick up truck...

jed

i think offering the choice of diesel engines will help American car brands differentiate their products from traditional japanese vehicles. I think its an easier way to offer cars with better gas mileage. If Ford could offer refined diesel engines for the Focus and the Fusion, they might capture a growing segment of the population that's now looking towards buying a diesel. I think this generation is more forgiving of diesel technology, especially considering the leaps diesel tech has made in the past decade.

Ben Shonwise

GM has had 1/2 ton diesels out a while ago.
My friends 84 6.2 half ton
my dad's 95 6.5 TD half ton

The problem with the early GM diesels was that that engine was a converted gasoline engine. Not stong enough to withstand the high compression of diesl fuel.
Due to GM'S rush to get a diesel on the market, they came out with a junky engine, which put a damper on the American publics desire for a diesel.
In other words they messed up the diesel market in the U S. People were afraid of them since GM diesels were so unreliable.
If Ford comes out with a reliable engine that has a long life in their F-150 I think they would be very wise.
I am a Ford fan, but Ford has not had many new ideas of late to be proud of.
They don't redesign their cars. Look at the Crown Vic and the Mercury Marquis. There last major redesign was in 1992.
The Crown Vic and Marquis still carry that same design even in the 2007 cars. maybe new tail lights headlights and grill, but the rest of car is the same. I know I, i own a 1994 Marquis and when I look at a 2oo7, not much different. That is a long time to expect people to keep buying a 1992 model stamped as a 2007

Lt. O

While it is true that the Mercury Grand Marquis is basically a higher trim model of the Ford Crown Vic, the difference between the '94 model, and the '07 model is quite different. The current Vic's/Marquis have remained unchanged--save for some minor interior touchups and different hub caps-- since the 1999 model year. Though the overall length and wheelbase are similar, the frame has a different shape, and the overall width is greater. Example: any door off of a 99 vic will fit a 2007, however the door off of a pre 1999 vic will not. Ask any cop. The current vics are bigger inside.

As far as GM having a 1/2 ton diesel, this is true. As stated in a previous post, GM did in fact make a Silverado/Sierra 1500 diesel which was an absolute piece of crap that was notorious for blowing head gaskets. This was also the same engine which was briefly offered in the early 80's Oldmobile 88 Brougham, as well as the Chevy Blazer/GMC Jimmy.

wolfshowl

A lot of people are comparing apples to oranges. Yes US car companies have experimented with diesel, but it was hardly by choice. Diesel alternatives became a major issue because of the oil crisis in the 70s and again in the 80s. The manufacturers rushed out diesel engines to meet customer demand for better fuel efficiency. The engines were poorly engineered and in the case of GM many were a reworked gasoline engine which basically had its spark plugs removed and had injectors slapped in. All these engines were natural aspirated engines and performed especially poorly at altitude and under a load. Those engines are not worth the metal used in making them.

Comparatively new electronic turbo diesels are like night and day. Electronic controls on diesel engines in a lot of ways are light years ahead of what is happening in the auto industry. People have stopped thinking about diesel for a number of years and to a lot of them diesels have seased to exist. The industry has evolved greatly under the demands of trucking, heavy equipment, locomotion, generation, and hundreds of other applications. What we can do with diesel systems in on the road trucks for instance would probably surprise most people.

Because of new emission requirements for diesel engines, the new engines are not even close to what you may know from a truck built in 2000. These are very deferent engines then what they put in the Caty-clacker and old trucks.

I will agree however that the week part of all of this is the transmission. They have proven the week point in pickup trucks. They are even proving to be a week point in on the road trucking now (OTR transmissions might see triple countershafts as a standard and not a Mack oddity in the near future).

To address a few other things…It is not overly difficult to find 3406A parts. Hell Cat still manufactures the 3406 series for sales over seas. As impossible as it sounds you can still find parts for Two-Stoker Detroits. Albeit some parts are a little funky to find, a Detroit dealer can still rebuild them for the most part. Also, just because it says that it is a Land Rover engine does not necessarily mean that it is Land Rover exclusive. From what I have read other places Ford engineered the engine and they have only put it in the Land Rovers to date. Make no mistake it is a Ford engine.

Food for thought…in Europe diesel engines out sell gasoline engines!

Jim Miller

ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!
I want a diesel focus too but I think that's been squashed. After my 85 f-250 with a 6.9 diesel I've never even considered a gasser. To tow a mustang drag car on an open trailer and a slide in camper, the 6.9 was great. 25mpg all the time with a 4 spd. Now, if it doesn't have 300+hp and a gazillion pounds of torque, people think it's gutless! I've never used more than 1/2 throttle on the 2005, not needed. I tow at 60mph and it cruises fine. Now I will be able to get a 1/2 ton with a smaller lighter diesel that will get better milage and have the power of an old 6.9? ABOUT TIME!!!
THANK YOU FORD! (build the diesel car for the wife and I'll buy it too)

PS, I've had friends with both diesel rangers and tempo's (or was the car an escort?) and they loved them too!!

ceadmin

Amen! Diesel rocks! It's about time we get some more options for diesel both in trucks and cars. Hopefully other manufacturers will follow to add to the choices.

Al

I was planning on purchasing an 08 Pontiac G8 to replace my 94 Honda Accord that's closing in on 200,000 miles. This changes my plans. Sign me up for an 08 F150 Crew Cab FX4 Diesel!!!! I own a 94 F150 with 2wd and the 5.0 V8. It has 160,000 trouble free miles. My brother just traded his 02 F150 FX4 on a F250 Crew with the V8. This is a truck that should have been made years ago. If I can get 16-18 city and 22-25 Hwy with no load I'm all 4 it. I drive 35000 miles a year and have been waiting on something with room, 4wd and decent fuel milage. Now all Ford has left to do is get the quality right 1st and this will be a home run. Emphasis on getting the quality right 1st no matter what it takes.

tommy blackston

Back to the comment dated 2005 07 about the 2007 Mercury Marqius having a different design than the 1994. The writer mentioned that the doors from a 1994 would not fit the 2007 and that the frame was different. My comment on Dec. 19 2006 still stands . The basic exterior design of the Marquis has not changed since 1992 It sill basically looks the same. Maybe the frame is a bit different and the doors are shaped a bit different, but the engineers have been asleep on these cars to let them go so long with the same basic exterior design for 15 years running . This day and time people are looking for something that looks different than it did back in 1992. Ford is in trouble in their design department, look at their sales. The Marquis and Crown Vic are a very reliable vehicles , but Ford has basicaly forgotten about them as for as design is concerned.

Tommy Blackston

Commenting on the planned F-150 Diesel. I think it is a grand idea. Ford needs help on their fuel mileage on their truck based vehicles. Go to a lot, check out the estimated fuel mileage on a Ford and Chevy truck. Chevy has posted for I cant rememebr how long a better fuel mileage than Ford. To be number one this day and time you need to produce vehicles that get good fuel mileage along with great reliability. If Ford does bring out the F150 Diesel, then they could also have an Expedition Diesel, since the Expedition is basically an enclosed pickup. If one wanted to go back a bit the Expedtion, Suburban; etc is basically a station wagon. Think about the big sedans of yore, the manufactures just designed the rear of the vehicle a bit and made a station wagon. Same thing Chevy did with their pickups, the Suburban, Ford with the Expedition; etc. They call it a SUV, but it is basically a Station Wagon on a Truck chasis instead of a car chasis.

tommy blackston

Back to the comment dated 2005 07 about the 2007 Mercury Marqius having a different design than the 1994. The writer mentioned that the doors from a 1994 would not fit the 2007 and that the frame was different. My comment on Dec. 19 2006 still stands . The basic exterior design of the Marquis has not changed since 1992 It sill basically looks the same. Maybe the frame is a bit different and the doors are shaped a bit different, but the engineers have been asleep on these cars to let them go so long with the same basic exterior design for 15 years running . This day and time people are looking for something that looks different than it did back in 1992. Ford is in trouble in their design department, look at their sales. The Marquis and Crown Vic are a very reliable vehicles , but Ford has basicaly forgotten about them as for as design is concerned.

michael

build the f150 diesel pickup. also bring the ford focus diesel to american auto market for people to buy. ford needs to bring more diesel options to us consumers. i will buy one of each.

matt

why not the 4.6 V6 diesel in the ford LCF?

Art Totten

A F-150 diesel pickup would allow a smaller truck/trailer package than the F-250 that I am using now. At over 200,000 miles most pulling a 36' traileer with two race cars aboard and all the other stuff I want to down size to a one car deal and the F-150 woud make me a happy camper (racer). I sure hope Ford puts this truck out soon. Thank you Ford!

Brian

If ford makes it I'll try it. There is no other option in a half ton truck these days. I had a half ton gmc 82 diesel it got 26-27 mpg on the highway. The torqe of engine would eat starters in winter if you forgot to plug it up.

Gene Zaldi

Why not make a new model...lets called F-200, instead placing a huge v-8 block 260 some hp and almost 500 torque (today's F-250 has 250 hp and 500 lbs. torque)why not make it like a 6 cyl in line like a 200 hp, and 375/400 lbs torque, try to reach in city like 18/20 mls.. Make a new engine, Ford made, totally new, not a "borrower" from another motor corp. Just my two cents. Gene.
They keep copying and copying, would never learn from the orient people....

Brett

I have been wanting this for a decade. I know Ford had to be thinking about this for a long time. The new F200 Diesel. Sounds good to me.

Gene Zaldi

Plenty of power and torque in a new 6 cyl. diesel engine, the Jap's have'em so...why not us. Instead in trying to get lots of HP, why not try to get high mileage and bit of torque, like 350/375, and maybe 150/175 hp. Diesel cost ain't going to be cheaper, since demand is still high and strong, so ethier we go economy or we go green which by the way aint' going to get us power. Now the ball is in Ford yard, lets see if they are smart enough to read customers desires.

Andre

For years I have been a Ford buyer to encourage our Canadian and American folks who work hard to give us decent automotive products at a fair price. While Ford Europe has been developing fantastic diesel products, Ford America has been serving us the same old, same old technology. Don’t even try, to communicate with Ford America or Canada, you only get prepared statements back. Sorry Ford, my last car is a Hyunday, and my next truck will be a small diesel, so get with the program, or get out!

Blade

Any idea if this will be an '08 model, or is it coming out in '08/'09 as a '09/'10 model?

Gene Zaldi

I believed gonna be in 09/10, also want to believe they (Ford) will listen to US clientels, and make an small diesel truck with ECONOMY IN MIND.....reganding fuel consuption...

Royce Stewart


Ford has been building diesel engines in Europe for many years. Their latest modern Duratorq diesels are amoung the best diesel engines built. I read above that Ford should build their own engines, that is exactly what they are doing.The Land Rover is 100% owned by Ford and uses Ford Diesel engines, The same Ford engines are used in many Ford cars and trucks built in Europe , also Jaguar which is 100% owned by Ford offers Ford Diesels. Ford makes a Duratorq V8, this would be excellent for the F150 and Expedition. But Ford should get right on to this now, before the competition offers their diesels.

gene zaldi

I pray everyday, they do.... my 1999 Crew/Cab, F-250 Diesel is killing my budget...

Rene Rosales

First off, I am an avowed Ford fan. But for me, the inherently poor fuel economy of all full-sized pickups like the F-150, and the high cost and stiff (commercial) ride of the Ford Super Duty trucks, a Ford truck was previously never a consideration for me, as much as I think they make great trucks.

However, I firmly believe that a Diesel F-150 would open new market segments for Ford because of a unique combination of utility, economy, durability, and the comfortable ride that the current F150 series is known for. For me, it would suddenly be a vehicle I NEED to have as it can be a viable daily driver, around-town truck and do-all, haul-all utility vehicle. (rather than rent one occasionally).

Maybe if Fusion appears in a hybrid model, my garage could go completely Ford.

I have always seen Ford as more innovative among the big Three, with better quality, design and stronger product identity among its models. A diesel F-150 would help keep all of that going. I hope it has the same good reputation as the Powerstroke line.

gene zaldi

..any news or words from Ford Motor Co. ?

Leland Kennedy

It's about time, I've pleaded with ford dealers for 8 years now, to get the factory on the stick and design a diesel F-150. I've owned a ford diesel since '87 and have nothing but praise for them. My current work truck, a '99 SD has 325,000 miles on it and still pulls the mail like a new one. It replaced a '91HD with the 7.3IDI with 308,000 miles (only replaced it due to a wreck) and was still running like new. Ford used to build tractor's with their own diesel engines and they were great, but the Navistar engines have been great. Hopefully, the Land Rover engine is no different. It doesn't make much sense to change horses in the middle of the stream now. Just get this truck on the market, before Chrysler/Daimeler beat you to the punch again (Diesel Liberty)

Biran

It would be awesome if ford came out with a F-150 Diesel. I own a Volkswagen Jetta TDI diesel and I have gotten 49 MPG with it. It isn't one of those boring, small, and slow high MPG cars either. It has plenty of pep at 100 HP and 171 of torque. The diesel engine cost me an extra $2,000. With how much I drive I will make up that cost in no time, especially since diesel is cheaper than gas again. The engine is really quiet and the smell isn't bad. Also, even though the initial cost is higher, you have to remember that diesel re-sale is much higher than gasoline. I never really understood why US companies don't offer the small truck diesels. They can be found everywhere else in the world except here.

alan

On our farm we have 4 6.2 Chevy's and they are GREAT! Does everything a 1/2 ton truck is supposed to do. Chevy produced a 350 diesel that wasn't very popular in 78-79 and a version of this was put in GM cars but in 1982 Chevy trucks came out with the 6.2 which was designed as a diesel from the ground up. GM ran this motor as an option in their trucks I believe up until about 1992-93 when the 6.5 diesel came out in turbo and NA form and ran till 2000.

Tomas

As much as Ford has invested into this new diesel, the new Toyota Tundra diesel will likely outsell it.

Derric

Ford is moving in the right direction, but more needs to be done. To begin with, All Ford vehicles should be flex fuel. Small diesel engines should be made available for the f150 and ranger trucks as well. Maybe an inline 6 or even 4 cylinder turbo. That way the current transmissions can utilize them, and the only difference would be a slightly taller gearing to take advantage of the torque. Also, Ford should consider leading the way away from transmissions completely and finally give us electric hub drive at the each wheel. Use a small diesel engine to power a generator and transfer to power to the wheels via electrical power instead of transmissions. The savings in weight could be substantial. And the torque would also be amazing. That's how modern day trains work. Why not a truck?

mario nufio

Please send me information in regard to the diesel trucks F 150 4x2 mechanic trsnmision

mario nufio

I am still waiting fot the information in regard to diesel Ford pickups F 150 2x4 mechanic transmission 6 or 8 cylinders.- Please send the information vía E mail or by air mail to my address: Colonia El Prado 7a. calle >No. 209 Tegucigalpa, MDc Honduras CA.- >>>>>>thank-you very much

william rogers

Diesel in America! with all the emmission requirements imposed (ESP. in Ca.) It becomes cost prohibitive to install one in a lighter duty Vehicle. Development costs of a new one are high. There has been a lot of development done in the U.K.and Europe where the Diesel is wide spread With the amount of investment in the landrover of Ford money you could say it is a ford engine. Focus should be on U.S. and state emmission athoritys other wise you can forget about any cost savings with the diesel. these extream measures have kept the diesel out of the U.S. Price will probably negate any fuel savings and if you really have to tow use the superduty.

D. A. Smith

When companies such as Ford deprive Americans of the excellent small diesel cars they sell in Europe, we might simply blame the cynicism of their myopic marketing people. But, for those of us who would like to have one, not caring about the usual (and unnecessary) excessive ooomph, there is a detectable aroma of CORRUPTION!

Arthur Brown Sr

Does any one know the pros and cons of a 1992 ford diesel 14 passenger bus ( I know one that is for sale and my church is in the market). I live in Anchorage Alaska and the bus will be used for tranportation to the church appx 20 miles from my house, as I am the Transportation captain.

Kim

Well, i just asked Ford corporate about future pans for this yesterday, before reading this blog and they said no plans are in the works for a diesel F150. Hate to think I'll be switching brands after all these years as a satisfied Ford owner.

Larry

I think if they are going to offer the f150 in a diesel they had better get it out before toyota offers the tacoma in a diesel. Just dont go overboard on power and focus on economy. 31 mpg will do just fine as long as it stays there.

James

Ford is stupid. With its stock at $6.70 and selling Diesel Ranger Trucks in Australia and around the world all they have to do is sell them in the US. OK change to left drive but you see my point. Its stupid and I dont feel right buying from mentally challenged people. Ford damn wake up and get your head out of your ...........

Mario D. Nufio

Dear Ford Members:

Although I already sent my commentary and I do requested some information about the Pick-up Ford 150 diesel, I am never received any infromation.
Will you please be so kind to let me know when the buyers will be able to see in the market such a truck.- We are are anxious to see it.
Than-you very much and happy New year

Gary P.

Please send me information on the Ford F150 diesel 4X4 or 2X4. I want to buy one.

JH

Wow. Ford getting some kind of diesel? Wel it's too bad DODGE announced months ago that they would be getting a new cummins v8 for their half tons. And shouldn't Ford work the kinks out of their GAS and previous diesels first? False advertisement....

Mike Huff

I owned a 1982 Chevy 6.2 diesel. It averaged over 25 mpg. I have been asking my local Ford dealer when the diesel F-150 was coming out and he saud it was just a rumor. I'm glad the story is out.

I have 219,000 miles on my current F-150. Though it still runs great, I would seriously consider the diesel, manly for the mpg; if the gearing is right.

It is way overdue

Don Wayne

It would be wonderful indeed for an f150 to have a diesel. I am like the other ford owner up above, I drive my trucks til they die. I started hearing rumors of an f150 diesel several months ago, and have been holding off on a purchase of a new truck since then to see what might be really happening. as a truck driver I appreciate the power and reliability of diesels more than most, and look forward to seeing a real innovation.

Jason Russell

Ford would do well to fix the problems with their current line of diesels first (in the US SuperDuty trucks) the 7.3 Powerstroke is regarded as one of the best engines in terms of reliability. I get 18-20 MPG consistently in my 1997 F250 Auto. Then you go to the 6.0 Powerstroke and sacrifice reliability and the fuel mileage drops as well. Wrong direction! Now enter the 6.4 Powerstroke. Fuel mileage drops again. Wrong direction! I love the Ford trucks, but I wouldn't buy one newer than 2002. Get with the picture and improve fuel mileage. Offer a diesel Focus in the US and I'd get one of those to drive when I wasn't using the truck. If it gets decent mileage of course. As for the F150 I would be gun shy until it's a proven design. Too many failures in recent years with the US diesel market.

Rentzel

I saw a 5.4L V-6 Diesel by Ford in A F-650 or a F-750..And was told that Ford was going to put them in the F-150's in 2010 !!! What happen Ford ??????

scott

Its no wonder the big three are almost a thing of the past.The biggest buyer of their product cant get a 2.5 diesel club cab that they sell UK and Mexico for far less than the crap they offer us in the US.The Ranger is the best thing that they offer yet they offer real fuel economy to other countries over us.They cling to the V-8 getting single digits or not much better in milage.The taurus is back what a bag over the head a transmission nightmare.Am I right in saying they are dropping the Ranger line?I hope not.

scott

Its no wonder the big three are almost a thing of the past.The biggest buyer of their product cant get a 2.5 diesel club cab that they sell UK and Mexico for far less than the crap they offer us in the US.The Ranger is the best thing that they offer yet they offer real fuel economy to other countries over us.They cling to the V-8 getting single digits or not much better in milage.The taurus is back what a bag over the head a transmission nightmare.Am I right in saying they are dropping the Ranger line?I hope not.

scott

Its no wonder the big three are almost a thing of the past.The biggest buyer of their product cant get a 2.5 diesel club cab that they sell UK and Mexico for far less than the crap they offer us in the US.The Ranger is the best thing that they offer yet they offer real fuel economy to other countries over us.They cling to the V-8 getting single digits or not much better in milage.The taurus is back what a bag over the head a transmission nightmare.Am I right in saying they are dropping the Ranger line?I hope not.

WHO HAS BEEN NUMBER ONE SELLER FOR HOW MANY YEARS FORD FORD FORD

mce

Still waiting for it...

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