2008 Ford F-450 and Full Super-Duty Lineup Debuts in Texas

Ford will unveil its first ever F-450 Super Duty pickup today at the Texas State Fair. Shown above, the F-450 is all new to the lineup; it was previously only used for commercial applications and can tow more than 24,000 pounds. Yeah, you read that right: 24,000 pounds. That’s a Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter jet, or the Hubble Telescope.

The F-450 is powered by a new 6.4-liter turbo-diesel engine that puts out 350 hp and 650 pounds-feet of torque. That’s 8 more pounds-feet of torque than the outgoing 6.0-liter diesel engine. There are also gasoline V-8 and V-10 engines available throughout the range.

There’s also a new interior, but at press time no interior photos were available.

Pricing and availability will be announced at a future date. The 2008s should arrive at dealerships in early 2007.

Comments

wow...it looks like the same f250...egh thats what we need, more short guys driving these huge things to compensate for their shortcomings...they should outlaw or just make these manageable to drive since i haven't met anyone that can...

Hope high gas prices kill these monsters that now are even uglier after this redesign.

Are these needed? In Europe there is nothing like it even with diesel engines. Need I say more.....

guys,
these aren't being bought by moms taking the kids to soccer practice.
They're generally used for heavy work or recreation towing like campers, boats or 24,000 pounds of sod to lay down a soccer field.

Am I missing something or are these trucks the same as '06 models from the firewall on back?

Ah, yeah they are bought by moms taking kids to soccer practice, swim practice, private school and everything in between. Why doesn't everyone just drive what they want to drive and shut up about what other people drive? I have driven an F350, 4 door, dual wheel, 4 wheel drive with manual transmission for eight years. I've never crashed it or anything else in or around my path. I can park, turn, back up, go through drive thrus and pull a trailer. Gas prices can go through the roof and I'll still drive it. Outlaw the trucks? That's good, more government involvment in our lives because without them how can I make decisions on my own? I need the government to tell me what to drive in this free country called USA. If London is so great, why aren't you there? You wouldn't have to put up with our gas guzzling kind, so you do need to say more. Get over yourself and if you're not doing some charity/volunteer work so that you're actually making a difference/contribution somewhere, get on it instead of just talking a good game. Get involved as there are MANY organizations that could use your time, talent and treasures which you have to share.

Kathy, these are essentially commercial trucks. The fact that they can haul people as well, doesn't mean they are passenger vehcles. I don't think anybody is saying that they should be outlawed, but we do need greater regulation on these types of vehilces, if not for the fuel economy then for those of us who have to drive next to you as your trying to cross three lanes of traffic to get to Starbucks or McDonalds or where ever. How about a commercial drivers license endorsement for people that insist they need a small semi-tractor to drop the kids off at dance class?

i understand owning a heavy dudy truck if you are a farmer or just live in the country but if you live in the city there is no reaason to own a heavy duty. the sad thing is there is more heavy duty trucks in the city than anywhere else. i use to live in phoenix az and the number one truck on the side of the freeway with the hoods up are ford f2 and 350s but i didn't see many chevy on the side of the road. a machanic that ford keeps him in business

"these aren't being bought by moms taking the kids to soccer practice.
They're generally used for heavy work or recreation towing like campers, boats or 24,000 pounds of sod to lay down a soccer field. "

I know this line of argument. But the point I made is that Europeans do these things too yet they get them done without these trucks. So some of the 'needs' seem exaggerated.

No need for government intervention directly. Just raise gas prices to levels that reflect the true cost of driving. That would be closer to European levels and you will soon see these heavy duty trucks selling in significantly lower volumes.

The same goes for full-size pickups. These are also considered 'essential' for farming, carpenters, construction workers etc. Yet again in Europe they get by without them.

They use more fuel and space efficient compact pickups and vans. Full-size pickups are about luxury not need.

"Full size pick ups are about luxury not need"..In the city maybe. However I would like to see a how those folks in Europe haul a horse trailer loaded with 12 horses or livestock travel up and down the swiss alps like we do here in the rockies. Its about keeping the roads safe and efficient in that case. Do soccer moms need these? No. Does any business white collar guy/gal need these? No. Do they look ridiculous in them? Yes. However there has always been a blue collar breed of folks in the heartland of america that have relied on massive power for centuries. Now instead of taking many months, and the muscle of many horses or oxes,to move large numbers of cattle or produce across this great country we are able to do so in less time with less danger. Why would anybody be opposed to us doing it cleaner and quiter now as well? We need to be pushing the technological envelope in order to meet our needs and to find ways of protecting the future generations of children from our cancerous ways. For those of you who would like to discard all this technological gobbly gook, are you really ready to return to the stone age? Do you honestly believe mankind could survive today with out this monster called civilization? Get real. Very few folks could live that way and most city folks and folks in Europe would perish. Lets work towards a healthy realistic solution that incorporates ecology and economy. Laws do not make solutions they make prisoners. Education makes solutions and ensures freedom.

Ford trucks have what it takes. The design ill admit, is differnt. But a truck that can turn on a dime, rides like a Lincoln, and can pull 12 TONS of anything.....well is amazing. Housing market drop? Ok so i guess that means the US isn't going to build anything else for next 10 years right? The only thing i want to see happen is a new technology of power source in these works of art, cause people thats what this is. Im excited!!

I send my 16 year old daughter to highschool in my 2005 F-250 DIESEL. (No accidents no speeding)...I feel so safe...I just tell her that if she gets in an accident, she will probably kill somebody(that gets her foot of the pedal everytime)...Grow up guys....Bigger is better and safer....I am inline for the 2008 F450 dually....GOD BLESS THE USA

I've been driving my 2003 F 350 diesel 6.0 and love it. It does everything I need it to do and on the highway I get 24 mpg. A very huge number of midsize cars don't do that well and sure aren't as safe. It is a Super Duty Lariate and is a super way to travel. I push snow, pull trailers, and with my added Bully Dog system in mountain country, I have no problem with power.I worked all my life to enjoy my retirement and my truck is one of my enjoyments. This is America the land of the free. I was raised a wheat farmer and I enjoy good machinery and the wide open spaces. We all have our own thing and I hope everyone can enjoy their own thing in thier later years. And I might add, with God in your life, you will.

I worked in the job market for 27 years .Retired three years ago. I always drove a toyota pickup and once for a short time i drove a isuzu pickup thinking i was saving money on gas . after I retired I bought me a red ford f350 dually .to my suprise it gets 21 miles a gallon. the toyota didnt get but 19 and the isuzu got 18 . well i guess you do learn with age.My big red dually f350 is a real truck more power than i ever had a lots better ride and it surly is a lots safer . the people that are kicking the big pickups have no idea of what they are talking about .maybe when they grow up they will develop a brain .It took me 27 years to learn . loving big red . mel

Get a life... buy what ever you want. Who cares?

Finally, someone with sense. If you do not like it do not buy it. The same people that are complaining at the start of this chain are the same people who have more envy than the person buying the truck. Again, if you do not like something, do not push your views on someone else. Some of you are the same people who are trying to get "UNDER GOD" and "GOD Bless America" removed from the American way of life. And for the arguement Europe not needing these, we won the war becuase of Horsepower.

Good comments both for and against this new F series. I have a 2003 F350 and I plan to trade it for the F450 you just saw. I make this decision knowing that desiel is going through the roof and that the country is getting more densly populated. With more and more people from europe, asia, russia, africa an south america imigrating to the good ole USA, it is understandable where people get their oppinions. I provided my country with 21 years of mine and my family's lives so that they could imigrate and have freedom of speech. As some of you, not all, scowl and curse at me while I drive down the city, rural, or country road in my big black montrous truck, I will laugh and smile as I wave at you knowing that people like me gave you the right to do that.
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Thank you FoMoCo, I have been waiting for this truck for a long time. It looks awesome and I cant wait to drive one.

As I have already posted, I have a 2003 F-350 deisel w/a 6.0 and a complete Bully Dog on board that makes this truck absolutely awesome. You might ask why I want 700+ hp and almost 800 lbs of torque and the ability to do 0 to 60 in 5 seconds and have a top speed of 150+ mph. and 100 mph in a quarter mile. Well, part of it is just that I can and part of it is my mileage is about 24 mpg depending on how I drive. I don't do all these things in my truck and I drive like old folks drive but the fact that it is about the most powerful truck around here is a lot of fun just having such a vehicle. I do have a question though. Why doesn't Ford make something like the Bully Dog and offer it as an option instead of killing the warranty if you have one installed? As it is, you have to wait 3 years before you can install something like that. Any Ideas? Anybody?

i m a landascaping i have a f 250 and im a short guy ( only in height ) eh eh , but this truck its exactly what we need it s big so u can put lot of staff in the back bed, its powerfull so i can hook my trailer and its diesel so u definately savew some bucks.. i m a italian stallion and in italy we said that : the small bottle have always the best wine ( my case ) but it not the new f450 case ,but i bet that wine in the truck he will get u so drunk just buyed and shut up!! i will n to culu

It doesn't get any better than a F-450 King Ranch Powerstroke turbodiesel 6.4 liter Lariat quad cab 4x4 dually. I live a King Ranch lifestyle, don't worry 'bout it. Thank god for F-O-R-D. First On Race Day, I'd rather push a Ford than drive a chevy, and dodge?? what is a dodge anyway? I'm a FORD kinda guy.

People who think such trucks as the F series are some how magically safer than other cars are stupid. If your car is built with masive gurders and reinforced contrete its moer likely to kill you. The reason being is that its the stop that does the most damage to people. If you stop intantly with no defromation you will die in anything over 25 mph. The fall of a tall building doesnt kill you its the sudden stop. If you think your safe because youve got a huge bonnet it just means theres more to crush you in a severe accident. And dont think you can get away by saying "it wont happen to me". 44,000 americans died last year in car smashs. And if you dont belive me look up pictures of the 2000 F-150 in crash tests!

Does anyone know if the F450 will be available in SRW? Or just DRW?

Guys,

Remember the 30's, Deusenberg, Auburn, excessively heavy and excessively powered, very well appointed and expensive. This will be the most expensive truck out there. God Bless America...Jose

i love to see the comments - for and against this truck. I am so glad that I live in a country where I'm free to read and say anything I want about a truck. I'm also glad that I live in the country where these f-450's are made so I can get mine faster. I am placing the order for one today. It's called progress, and in Oregon people buy big trucks to help them do work faster and safer. If you want to bash something, make it the Hummer2's, those are the real useless wastes of fuel and space.

I would say that these trucks are essential to the economy of this country, given how popular they are with small businesses and stuff, but I would also say that too many people buy these trucks when they have no real use for them except for the infrequent towing job (anyone heard of truck rentals?)

You can bet your @#% I’m buying a F450 just as soon as they are available. Know why? Cause I want to use up as much natural resources as I possibly can. Know why? Cause it makes Democrats so darn mad. But seriously, I don’t spend ALL my time running over little white bunnies, and destroying the Ozone. Ford makes the best trucks in the world, and I just want the biggest and best. Plus the F450 is so heavy and comfortable…makes killing cute game all the easier.

I hope that the 6.4 is better than the 6.0 mine now is a 2006 with 25k miles and it has been in the garage 3 times isn't that a lemon law? blowing anti freeze egr tube out 3 times?

I still like ford but please get it right this time.

Sorry to hear about your 2006 problems. I hope ford gets them fixed for you ASAP. the lemon law usually requires three major failures of the same system before taking effect. Have you emailed ford? I keep seeing complaints of 6.0's but when I search the net I find several duramax or doege complaints for every one on the ford 6.0's and ford sells more trucks than all the rest combined. I was gonna buy a doge cummings this time but when my neighbor had to replace his tranny on his dodge cummings after only six months and his cab cracked I changed my mind. At least with a ford the body dosen't fall apart and it works.
thinkin of ordering an 08 6.4L

Nice! I am a contractor who builds and remodels houses. I am getting in line for this truck asap. I drive a 2003, f250 king ranch and love it. Any one in the service industry will be itching to get their hands on the new f450. Can't wait to see them on the freeway's, just remember stay out of their way if you see them in your rearview mirror!

This is the truck many of us have been waiting for. I hope Ford has conducted sufficient R&D and worked out all of the bugs. I am going to buy an 08 F450 that will replace my 04 F350 that Ford is buying back as a lemon. Notwithstanding valid concerns for the environment, for those who criticize big truck buyers, your interests probably don't require you to NEED a truck such as this. For those of us that do need such a truck, I am thankful that we live in American and we can have such a vehicle. If you don't like the truck, don't buy it. However, let those of us who need it or just want it enjoy it without criticizm.

Well written, boomboom. People are quick to criticize buyers of big trucks, ignoring the fact that perhaps it will be used for utilitarian purposes.

BUT IT WON'T! we are not THAT concerned with the environment, however, it is common knowledge that F250 and above do not have the driving ability or knowledge to handle such a crackerbox of a truck. Basically, Those drivers are just compensating for their shortcomings...sorry everyone hit a sore spot! :-)

Siple unless u have a need dont by the damn truck to drive around and think that your a bad ass cuz ur truck can haul 24,000 lbs when u have no idea how to drive it beacuse u got sick of your sports car and decided to get a truck to look cool i own a repo company and yes i do have a f450 used to repo 5th wheels and things of that nature

just a few things. i am from texas and everybody its seems owns trucks. as far as the safety thing, there are plenty of smaller vehicles that are safer. as far as the everyday person owning a large truck, it does not make sense. for the mom who has the kids and pulls trls. i wonder how often you pull multi-ton trls. it seems if you pull a trl once or twice a month then get a half-ton truck. as far as the guy in retirement, i agree with the god thing, but dont you think he would be happier if your truck was cheaper to free up more money for him. and that brings us to money. lets see $600- $800 payments vs. $300-$400 payuments lets see... a difference between $300-$500 a month thats $3600 to $6000 a year and that people over 18 years is $64,000 -$108,000 assuming that you trade in every 5 or 6 yrs, whick most people do that buy these big trucks,whoa.. i forgot the interest...can you say new home can you say college education for kids...can you say retirement, can you say more for the church. i see people buying these trucks just to compete with other people, they will not admit this though. values are taught by the parents. managing money is important. not the status symbol. it took me awhile to realize this, im just glad i did before i bought one of these giants. and buy the way i do own a f-250 but its a 1975, it has some rust but i only paid 1800 for it and i do pull trls more than once a month, and although i cant pull a hill at 65 or 70 i am very happy to go along at 45 when the trl is heavy. and yes you can be safe doing that.one more thing, this is not saying that people dont need big trucks, i know some do, but cut down on the options, power this power that king ranch this next it will be put your name here for $$$ to have your own special badge on the truck. i think everyone gets my message. god bless have a great day

If you need for it work Buy it. If you buy it to look cool, DON'T. There are a lot of small business owners out ther that need vehicles that will haul and tow a serious amounts of weight, believe me when you see a large pick up pulling 10,000-20,000# you will be thankful that the rig pulling it can handle the weight when it comes to stopping and handling. I do agree if you do not know how to handle such a vehicle you should either take a saftey course or dont drive it that includes SUV's (Soccer Mom's)

Wow! How ugly. I don't know how Ford stays alive continually bringing ugly things to life. Well...some of the Ford loyalists on here did say things like "bought me a Ford F250". Guess that sounds about right.

Sharp looking and capable. That's what these trucks are built for...capability. Most folks don't need to haul that heavy load or pull that large trailer. Stick with your little Jap small trucks or your minivans if you don't have the need...

Good lord... Buying a $50K+ truck to make up for shortcomings? Destroying the environment? Typical leftist comments. No one would really need a truck that can do the things these can.... right! Just go haul that big boat or camping trailer with a little half ton.

These folks get overly opinionated about a truck like this but they will gladly get in line for some Japanese hybrid that is $15K overpriced for the ultra nominal difference in how the car effects the environment. But alas, it's their right. Though not being an uneducated red neck or lacking in any masculine related respects I'd buy one of these. But I'd buy it for reasons that most of the Japanese buying hybrid crowd would never understand.

Everyone has a choice. But if you want to talk excess, go knock on the soccer mom bimbo types on their cell phone driving a Hummer or giant sized SUV in the name of having enough seats for all the kiddies. Like those women aren't trying to outdo each other in terms of status? Ha, they live for that. So they whine to their husbands about how the minivan isn't cutting it. And chances are if daddy even has a remote liking to having the wife stroke his ego (or anything else) in the future, they will be at a Hummer/Nav/Escalade/Denali dealer before the next soccer practice. Now compared to those types, why whine about a work truck?

i dont think a king ranch is all work and no play...its not a work truck, we are just saying that F150+ drivers are not intelligent enough to drive that vehicle. I don't drive a hybrid, don't plan to, but I do drive 17,000 miles a year and from experience I know that people without a cause should NOT drive these trucks.

All these crackers driving around in their big trucks will be crying for big gumint welfare to save them after the price of fuel tops $5.00 a gallon. It is $8.00 a gallon in England.

Many of us driving large trucks, especially diesel models do so to earn a living. Contractors of all kinds find these large trucks do the job better and safer. My diesel gets 40 percent better mileage than I used to get with a gas truck. I save hunderds of dollars per year driving a large diesel truck. I can tow my big construction trailer much better and safer than I used with a smaller gas powered truck.
But what irritates me is the high price of diesel fuel. The trucking industry is subsidising the gas guzzlers across the nation.

i live in yellowknife northwest territories canada .i run a electrical contracting buisness ,i have owned/driven nothing but fords and dodges all diesels since i've had my buisness,we haul goosenecks and fifth wheel vans , there is a 8'2" boss plow attached to my f450 now .our trucks travel to and from the diamond mines and all of the comunities arround the great slave lake via winter ice roads(ya we do drive on lakes here) if you don't have a big truck like the f-450 you don't work. mine is black and i call her brutis .i own a'04 dodge350,a '02 dodge250, a'01 f450(bucket truck) and this new f450.the point is this isn't europe,you don't need to drive your kids to soccer and you don't have to short #@*^% sindrome to owne a truck like the f 450 .

I am so happy that you want to ban these trucks. Then I would have to get something smaller and make many more trips, hire more guys or, buy more trucks to hauly my 9500# trailer around the country filled with tools and material building the stores that all you people like to shop in. Maybe, we just stop building them too. How do you think the large amounts of tools and material arrive on the jobsite. The guy that built your home could just call for a tractor trailer to haul 2 bundles of shingles and a sheet of plywood. That should add a few thousand dollars to anything you need done. Don't presume that you know what I need or, the many tens of thousands of private construction contractors in this country need.

We've always said to anyone who will listen that these trucks fit a need like Bart and AJ obviously have and sometimes small business owners buy a few at a time when a new model comes out so they're pretty important to Ford's shrinking bottom line.

America is awesome!I own a 2007 F250 crew Powerstroke, which is my fifth Super Duty in 10 years , and my wife owns a 2006 Honda Accord.ONLY two vehicles in this family.I have three very large trailers that I pull on a regular basis ranging from my hobbies to my career.I use this truck every day and feel good doing so because it is reliable, strong, and great on fuel costs compared to any other brand of truck out there that can do it reliably.I am anxiously awaiting the release of the new twin turbo, not because I need another truck right now, but because I am a truck guy that loves trucks and new things.I am not here to destroy the environment but enjoy life while I am here!Thats what America is all about!If you can comment on what a large vehicle is doing to the environment, do your homework.If you think you need a large mortgage to buy one of these, add up your costs of all your small and mid size gas burning vehicles in your yard, and then calculate how well these trucks hold there value.I dont care what people need in Europe or Asia or Africa or wherever, this is America!Be proud of what we can do here with technology.ALSO, PLEASE REMEMBER OUR TROOPS DEFENDING THIS GREAT COUNTRY THAT ALLOWS US ALL TO HAVE FREE VOICE, they are not fighting over the size of a truck...

Ya know...I think the posters who are raising issues of fuel consumption better check facts - a hybrid (take a Camry or 400h lexus) does not do much better than a F-350 and I expect this F-450 - on top of that you get better value. OH, where are we going to store all the old batteries?

In a city, sure, a hybrid has a chance of getting 15% better milage (say3-4 miles per gallon) - but on a highway its straight gas.

The only way you will ever ever see full low emissions is full electric with full nuclear - otherwise you are burning coal or nat gas to make the power (and "hide" pollution from Greenpeace).

Why do people keep squawking about Europe? You could fit 10 or 12 of those little countries inside Texas with room to spare. Their fuel costs are high because their taxes are high.

you know, it seems that liberals will just find anything to complain about. If you dont like the truck dont buy it, and let the rest of those who do buy one. Plus those trucks get better mileage than you may think. 24 highway. Those stupid little hybrids get like 26! wow waht a difference. Get over your selves and find something else to cry about.

The '08 Ford F-450 sounds like its going to be a great truck. Chevy buyers are always putting down Ford, Well guess what Chevy, more variety and bigger and better trucks. FORD IS THE BEST IN TEXAS!!!!!

Im with you Phil. Chevy might have a slightly bigger engine, but the truck it self doesnt come anywere near to ford. their 3500s are so low that I could almost rest my chin on it. Im 5'10. Sorry chevy but if i wanted a truck that small i would just buy an f-150. Plus now they got this stupid allison transmisson that makes the truck sound like a hybrid. Ford has always been better. They say that fords brack down to much. Bull butter. I have a 2001 xlt ranger with 90,000 miles, and nothing has gone wrong with it. The only repair a made was when i got in a 50 mile per hour crash on chrome ave with by brother, and his friend in the bed. They walked away with out a bruise, and i drove the truck home, and for a week after. Lets face it ford will always be better than chevy. Got my eye on a 450 kingranch. God Bless!

Americans like things cheap, like fresh produce for the vegans and vegetarians, and beef for the beef eaters. The more product a retail market/farmer can haul in one load, the less they must charge to cover expenses. If you can haul a single 25k lb. load versus a 5k lb. load to market you have just saved 4 additonal trips. At $2.15 a gallon for fuel 4 trips at even 20 MPG could be 4 more tanks of fuel used. The market/farmer is going to pass those added fuel expenses and driving times on to the retail customer. Would you prefer to pay $2.99 lb. for tomatoes or $4.99 lb. for tomatoes. Some argue that the F450 Super Duty is huge, actually the demensions are about the same as an F150, a couple inches here a couple there, not much difference at all. The fuel economy is much better because of the rail/piezo injection compared to EFI injection. We regurlary load our F250 trucks with 4k - 5k lb. loads on the truck and pulling a trailer with 6k - 10k lb.. We will be upgrading our F250's to F450's 6.4 diesels to keep our operating cost down. If the heaviest thing you drive is a hard-drive, and you do not need an F450, don't buy one, if you want to keep your local produce market from charging $4.99 lb. for tomatoes then shut the hell up. Why do you think Wal-Mart buys by train car loads, and not pick-up truck loads, it's all about volume.

I hope Ford comes through with an SUV based on the F-450. Wouldn't it be cool with dual wheels?

You say the new design is ugly ? , I suppose it's not as pretty as a new GM pickup , But then again most men looking for a real truck can look past the pretty exterior and pass on the GM for a Ford SD or even a Dodge HD , Because at the end of the day i'd rather get the job done with little strain than worry about getting my baby dirty. 2002 F-250 CC PS 7.3 Great Rig!
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Beautiful truck. Stupid comments though. I currently drive a 2001 F350. I've never had a problem with it. I am concerned that some of you are getting really good gas mileage. I get about 15mpg. I'll have it checked out to see if I can get that improved. It is better then my Ford Mustang Cobra. Probably more because of how I drive the car as opposed to the truck. I think I've scared more people with my Mustang Cobra then my truck. Top speed of about 150 mph. If you catch my drift. That's a joke for the liberal audience to respond to.

The company I own is a wireless communications company specializing in public safety communications. One of the products we build is Command Post trailers. They are specialized trailers for emergency communications. I promise you, you do not want me driving behind you hauling one of these trailers with anything less then my F350 dually. I've had hybrids, H2's, Corvettes and even mini vans with soccer mom's pull in front of me in traffic and slam on their brakes. Without panic or heart rate increase or even raising a finger I can stop my vehicle and my 14,000 lb load. I can do this because I do know how to drive. For those of you that think just becuase us 5'8" people drive oversized vehicles and don't having driving skills, we're the ones that just gave you another day on this planet, because you are also the ones pulling in front of us and cutting us off. It also shows your ignorance about the size of a man's penis.

I believe that everyone who wants a drivers license should have to drive an undersized truck with an oversized load in traffic for just 45 minutes. I promise you, you will never pull in front of another truck hauling a big load and not give him/her braking room again.

Awesome looking truck Ford. Love the new Shelby 500 Mustang as well. I think I'll buy both, ...because I can.

WOW. This truck sure got the keyboards humming! As a conservative, I take genuine joy in seeing how angry the liberals get over a vehicle like this. I have never seen such an angry group of self hating people. They hate America and want us to be more like Europe. Rest assured, however, that none of these people want to actually live in Europe. They want the freedom, choice and prosperity that America provides. They just feel guilty that this country is so great. This truck represents everything they hate about America and Americans. It is a slap in the face to their socialist values and pseudo-environmentalism. Liberalism is about how you feel. It is about feeling good about yourself. It is about living your life governed by emotion. This truck is not about emotion. It is about getting work done. It is about being the biggest and the best and not caring if someone else doesn't like it. God Bless Ford and God Bless America!

I'm surprised I don't see the same kind of hatred aimed at Hummers or Tahoes or Escalades. At least full size pickups can be used for towing/hauling/working. Their size and capability is needed in many cases. When is the last time you saw a Hummer towing a camper? These vehicles are purchased simply for ego. Trucks are for working.

actually its the othe way around, haul 9 people around in a truck....hrm! I DONT THINK SO! i drive a suburban because i have people to haul, places to go, and im not going to drive a minivan because they are too small and im not going to tourture myself and my family. Big trucks such as this pig of a vehicle is for ego. BAN F250s!!!

To those who want to complain, continue to do so, I'll keep buying these trucks and the Class 8 (80,000 lb) units that help me and my other 13 employees generate gross sales of 1.6 million pulling YOUR food, building supplies and other necessities to your life.

Think about that when your "sitting" on the "think tank".

"Band f250s" Wow you must be a nother one of those liberals. Maybe if yo were a hard working farmer then just maybe you would appreciate trucks, and what they are used for. And for your stupid suburban, maybe if some one else in your family could drive you could buy 2 smaller vehicles instead of a suburban you like for looks. Not because you think it is convenient. Because of you werent so stupid , and ignorant that is much more economical to tow 22 horses every day with a diesel truck rather than a little gas truck. Get over yourself and cry about something else. And do us a favor. If you dont like are country, what its about, and what are troops are fighting for. then get out. We would be a whole lot better with out ignorant liberals like you.

It's a lot less common to haul 9 people around than it is to tow/haul for work or play.

Hmmm...."Big trucks such as this pig of a vehicle is for ego"
"I'm not going to drive a minivan because they are too small"

If you want a Suburban, that's fine. You can admit it's for your ego. I don't like them but I don't think they should be banned. That's the difference between liberals and conservatives.

I saw the F-250 in Orlando last week. It's a very utilitarian. Ford listens intently to the wants of its core group of buyers. I respect that. Everything has a purpose in this new truck. The 6.4 will be better than the 6.0, but I am curious as to how Ford can claim huge payload/towing numbers with an outdated "C" channel rear frame? It is the same truck from the "A" pillar back but it is a good truck that unfortunately weighs a lot. The diesel will get great gas mileage and that F-450 is another clever response to that segment. I like the Hotchkiss rear suspension; the step tailgate; integrated brake controller; new interior, etc. Can't wait to drive one.

I have a 1999 f 250 with 355,000 miles and I know it will reach 500,000 by 2010 and then I am going to get a used f 450 from one of you smart people who buy one in 2008. Only Americians know how to build trucks and no body beats ford f series Praise God , He Loves You.
Rick
Houston texas

Out of all of my vehicles; 2001 Ranger (4.0L), 2006 Mustang Gt (4.6L), 1994 Blazer (5.7L), and the newest addition to my gewing collection of vehicles is my 2004 F350 diesel. out of all of my past cars and trucks the F350 gets the best mileage, even the little ranger. plus it makes some of the money i spent on it back in the way of plowing, lets see a hybrid do that. Around town i get between 15.5 - just under 18 MPG and highway it gets 21 - 23.5 MPG it is an great attention getter too. Soon to get a tuner of some kind and a set of exhuast stacks behind the cab so the libs can really choke on my black diesel cloud. ;)

Im with you concrete man and Rocco, maybe if liberals werent so ignorant, and stupid then they could understand that trucks are needed for much of the work us Americans do. But no they'er running out of things to complain about so they find whatever they can. Just like these two jack ass democrats running for president this year. Hillary Clinton, and that other loser.

right on

The new Ford ain't bad ,but wish Ford had really redesigned this truck. Appears all they did to the exterior is to slap on a restyled bumper grill and headlights and presto, label it as a completely redesinged vehicle.
Ford seems to be getting in the same mode with their pickups as they did with their cars. Look at the Ford Crown Vic , the Mercury Marquis and the Lincoln Town car. The Crown Vic and teh Marquis have not been redesigned since 1992 except for new grills lights etc , but the basic car still has the design it had back in 1992. Yep, all Ford thinks they have to do is to sick on new grills lights and they have a completely redesined vehicle.
I am a Ford Fan,, but their design engineers have been asleep at te wheel for several years running now.

Everyone seems to be screaming for a more drastic redesign. Ford did research and found out that people liked the way they looked. Their big complaint was the 6.0 engine. They changed that, added some nice features, adjusted the grill, added a mean looking (while mostly useless) vent on the sides, improved the tailgate for functionality, and changed the interior. I think it IS a drastically new SuperDuty - we just wanted the kind of drastic change they did with the Mustang or F-150 in 2004.

i AGREE with the Oklahoma guy, but i also think its good that they didnt change it to much. Theres nothing wrong with it. Plus if they keep making their trucks look any newer than they already look they will probaly end up looking like aliens designed them. We dont want our trucks looking like something a king or queen would ride in. We want them to look mean and tough. Plus the design doesnt really need a big change like the mustang did. The ford super dutys almost cant look any better than they do now, but what they could change is the king ranch. The king Ranches should look more rugged, instead of looking so fancy.

I am a sophomore in college in a predominately rural area and do landscaping as a summer job. There is a very real need for a truck like this and I think that these trucks will find a nice home in the world of farmers/construction/and other industries of those kinds. I have driven an F250 SD pulling a trailer loaded with dirt, mulch, and even our small tractor in it. I didn't feel that the truck had enough power and size to safely pull a large dump trailer with 6-8 cubic yards of soil in it. For all you people trying to compare America to Europe, get over it we aren't them and never will be. They may or may not have the need for the size and power that MANY jobs and industries do here. If you think that everyone that drives these is "to stupid" to handle them then I challenge you to drive one of these trucks with a large load and trailer on a highway and not have any problems with people in cars cutting you off repeatedly. Bottom line is that there is a large need for these trucks and they are very capable to be well controlled when you use a little more caution. Banning these trucks is not the answer, better driver education on all fronts may be that answer. I plan on owning a F250 or 350 after I graduate because I WANT TO not for my "ego" but because I am from a rural area and have used these trucks to do large amounts of work efficiently. And to the person who said they love their Suburban but should ban F250s and up, what do you think your suburban is based off of? A Chevy truck. Think about that next time you go to profess the end of the evil truck.

I find it funny that my landscaper is planning on buying one of these. I asked him how many lawns does he have to cut to pay for the truck and he replied, "I dunno I never thought about it." That explains why he's cutting my lawn.

Im not talking about lawn mowing. Im talking about larger scale landscaping like installing garden ponds that are big enough to fit one of these trucks in them, planting and moving large trees such as 10-12ft tall Alberta Spruce; 10-15ft shade trees, and putting in large patios. We don't mow lawns and never will. A truck like this would be over kill for something like mowing and hedge trimming.

To billy myers:

You sir are full of it. You can't get 700HP and 800 Ft lbs of torque with just a programmer. You'll need upgraded (typically a Stage 3 ATS setup) injectors, upgraded or dual HPOPs (High Pressure Oil Pumps), a better turbo, new headstuds, and a plethora of other supporting components. 700HP out of a bully dog... That's just hilarious.

You do 0-60 in 5 seconds? Yeah.. doubt it. 150mph? Are you on crack? The truck is NOT AERODYNAMICALLY CAPABLE of that speed. 24MPG? And (supposedly) putting out that much power? Maybe you should call some of the Diesel aftermarket houses like ATS, Innovative Diesel and the like, and sell them your secret.

Why doesn't Ford make the trucks to put out that much power? The can. WITH THE RIGHT COMPONENTS! They dont because of reliability. With that ammount of power the tranny would grenade itself in short order. Why is Ford voiding warantees? Because of people like you who put a programmer on their trucks, blow the engine up and then expect FORD to fix the owners' screwup.

Well in Eurotrash country, gas costs $7.00 per gallon. All foreign cars suck. My Superduty get 11mpg, and I proudly announce when asked. These trucks are workin trucks. Nothin else.

Oh, the vents on the side are functional. Did you see under the hood of the 6.4 diesel? Where the hell does the air go?! It's extremely tight, especially with about 8 different radiators.

Theres no way a Superduty will get more than 20mpg EVER. The new 6.4 diesel averages about 10mpg because of all the emmissions bullshit.

I had a 2003 F450 lariet Pickup. It was essentially a 450 cab and chassie that an upfitter streached a 350 bed to put on it. 4x4 leather 6.0L this truck was awesome to drive. I have pulled trees out of roads during and after hurricanes here in Va Bch, VA. I had to get rid of mine after 11 months and 50K miles. (Yes that is correct) as the torque-shift tranny just couldn't handle the 50K plus miles a year on the open road with my book business. If they get the torque-shift fixed I will buy another one. I currently drive a 2004 Kodiac 4500 Pickup, another awesome piece of american Diesel Burinig Technology. 26,000lbs towing. One word of caution. If you do buy a F450 and are expecting to pull more than a 10,000lb trailer in a non-recerational basis. Get your CDL, DOT, IFTA, and Possible an MC number. Exspecially if you travel to multiple states. It will be over 26,000 lbs GVWR (Rating) and you will get busted. The only other bad thing about the new ones is I priced up one last night and it is about $15,000.00 more than mine was new back in 03.

Joe

The Torqshift was new in 03. It has gotten a makeover this year with new gearing and better quality components.
I have a CDL A anyway. Only have to get a DOT # for the truck. Don't need a 450 though. The 250 is now essentially a 1.5 ton truck.
For the record about GM trucks, they use Jap rice burning diesels made by isuu. Don't care GM owns them, it's still a Jap diesel. Just buy a Ford. They are the only true American trucks and have the most capability. So what if the Duramax has 10 more Horsepower. That's all GM has on Ford.

I have an 08 F350 CC Dually, and yes it is a King Ranch. I use it to haul my six horse trailer, and the hay that feeds them, as well as when I need materials to repair my fences, home, and anything else. The reason for the the King Ranch is not just status. It maintains value higher and longer than an XL or XLT, so that I eventually get more of my money back. Case in point, my 06 was stolen and totaled in downtown Houston. Insurance payed all but 400 dollars of what was owed on the loan based on the value of the truck at only a year old.

As for driving, I notice that there are a lot of drivers who cannot drive their SUVs well, but most of the 250+ crowd does much better. BY FAR the worst drivers are those in their little Hondas. ESPECIALLY when the idiots pull in front of me towing my horses and all of 12,000+ lbs on my backside and stop fast in front of me thinking I can stop just as fast. Either that or they drive so close to be "back door" that I can't see them in the rear views even when I am doing the speed limit.

$400.00? What the hell?
I hear you on the jap car drivers and SUV drivers. Every time I haul a heavy "unsecure" load, you can't go more then 20-25mph because of the shitty streets up here. I have my yellow strobes on and in some cases my flashers, but the retards will tailgate right on my bumper or cut in front so close you have to hit the brake. Hard. At one point i was hauling a scrap load and on a curve, this stupid idiot had to tailgate, a bowling ball just missed the windshield by a foot. But he continued to tailgate.
How to you like the 08 F-350?

The government is not needed in regulating trucks... I think if you don't like that I drive a big truck and are concerned about the 'environment' than you should start riding a bike to/from work, school, etc.. Oh yeah make sure that the tires on your 'bicycle' are made from something other than rubber, because rubber is made from oil which pollutes too!! Anyway I just ordered my 2008 F250 4x4 Lariat which will cost me over $60,000.00 U.S. Dollars... I can't wait to get it!!!!

The damn gvt is involved in more than it needs to be. This is not a free country anymore. Big Ford trucks are the only thing I will buy. I am concerned about the enviroment but theres nothing we can do about it. We'll all be dead by the time anything happens, so what the hell.
Have fun with Diesel power.

I just ordered a '08 F450 4x4 last week. I'm a medical sonographer and travel around the country in my fifth wheel camper to work at understaffed hospitals. I also have a tree farm back home, that I have to haul my tractor/bush-hog/post-hole digger to. I can make a personal guarantee that the dangers of me hauling this stuff with my undersized Chevy 1500 are far greater than the dangers of me driving an F450 to work daily. Just my $.02 . God bless everyone.

So buying an F-450 is what freedom truly means?

While you spend thousands of dollars on your truck and the fuel you put in it, thousands of your people go hungry, lack education and live in dangerous neighborhoods. What freedom is that.

You're all just stupid enough to be conned into Ford's marketing, which makes you think that by owning a behemoth you will be more empowered, and therefore more free.

About hauling the boats, luxury trailers and so on, do you really need a 24,000 lb boat or recreation trailer? Do they even come that large? If they do then shame on any owner who is selfish enough to own them.

Shame on those who buy this truck too.

Ryan you are one of those tree hugers that will give someone crap about riding snowmobiles on six feet of snow.But then take your fourwheeler to your cabin. Or better yet a vegetarian giving someone crap about eating meat and come in with leather shoes and jacket. Just shut up .Oh and drive your Toyota previa. That by the time you are done after ten years will cost you more than my truck. Hence your new Battiers evry 60'000 miles.Where do you dump those batteries when you are done.Valdeeeeese BAY.

Jerry: I drive a GMC sierra. I am not a vegetarian. All I am asking for is some moderation, do we need to push everything to the extreme.

Don't pass a judgment on me when you know nothing about me.

Jerry: I drive a GMC sierra. I am not a vegetarian. All I am asking for is some moderation, do we need to push everything to the extreme.

Don't pass a judgment on me when you know nothing about me.

Ryan, try to take into consideration all sides. Recreational vehicles weighing upwards of 20k lbs are not all mansions on wheels. These fifth wheel campers are only able to accommodate a couple or a small family. Many, many folks (I am one of them) live in these campers as their primary residence. Next time you see someone driving a large truck, just think, he may be living in a campground working on your natural gas lines, nuclear power plants, hospitals, etcetera. Believe it or not there are people that actually need these large pickups.

To Ryan: Ryan you are so stupid you have a 1500 GMC Right? You probably will burn more fuel and pollute more than my new 2008 F250 the new laws are so strict that the new Ford Diesel engine uses ultra-low sulphur diesel, which burns cleaner. By the year 2010 Diesel vehicles sold in the U.S. will burn cleaner than my current F150 V-8 (gas engine) So Ryan get over it. Besides by time 'GLOBAL WARMING' affects us all i'll be dead so hey I don't give a F***. You should sell your GMC and buy a GEO. 2-door with a four cylinder.

Ford . . . Powerstroke. . .
BIG!!! POWER!!! FUN!!
NEED BIG TRUCK TO WORK.
4 Banger WON'T HANDLE LOADS.
Hybrids are not worth buying. They cost more over the decade than a midsize SUV. Proven.
WON'T BUY ANYTHING BUT FORD F-superduty!
Real trucks!!

Ryan, you are just about one of the biggest idiots that I had ever heard from in my life, and I live in south Florida. You say no one has a need for these trucks, tell me how do you tow a three axel trailer with 9 horses in it with a stupid hybrid. Go ahead tell me. didnt think so it wont happen, to tow something like that you need ah, maybe a truck! So you should get over yourself and move to Europe if you think its so much better there. O, by the way there's a nice tree in my back yard that you can hug. IDIOT

Quite frankly I am shcoked by the comments about banning these trucks. They are the most usefull, multi purpose vehicles on the market today. I have owned four of them including a GMC, two Fords and a Dodge.Tomorrow I am purchasing a new 2008 Ford F450. I can carry my family in style, pull my horse trailer, my boat and my bikes while at the same time having comfort and security. Also, I have never had a problem with my duallys serving as daily drivers in town or out in the country. I have never had an accident or been ticketed for anything in either of my trucks and if you people who talk about banning them haven't noticed, there are all kinds of dangerous drivers that drive all kinds of vehicles. Do we ban them all?

creo que la camioneta representa una de los logros mas importantes en ingenuieria de autos que ha tenido FORD, ya que de tipo tamden es un todo terreno de verdad. Para mi pais seria excepcional por el tipo de terreno que aqui ahi y que por su gran tamaño y lujo seria el complemento ideal para un viaje de verdad a cualquier playa, montaña o paraje de la diversidad en Costa Rica.

i just wanted to say that yall got a lot of time on your hands to be worrying about other people. who cares what kind of truck i drive i bust my ass at work so i can buy this truck. none of yall are going to tell me that the govt needs to regulate what i drive i fight for the freedom of choice. choice of what kind of damn truck i want to drive. if europeans can do it so good why are you here in the U.S.?

What I am noticing most is these libbies usually post a inflammatory statement then don't list a name? hmmm... and if you hate these things so much why are you looking at the reviews of them in the first place? evidently just to pick a fight... where is all the love and equality that the left professes, I just see small minds, big opinions and the need to oppose? The reason the left is having problems is the fact that you aren't open to ideas other than your own ( I mean ideas you read about or heard about on T.V. because most of you are too stupid to form your own opinions) Its like these hollywood types that preach riding a Vespa when in reality they are riding in Bentleys and such. I am here because I have a NEED for a new 450, and I will buy one! I have a 350 that is too underrated to pull my RV, so out of safety and responsibility I will buy a truck rated to pull my load to I wont drive over top of the tree hugging angry lot of you!

AND I think i will have a bumper sticker made for it just for you all. It will read something like "Big Smoking Stinking Diesel Truck... I bought this truck just to piss off all you lefties out there" FEEL FREE TO CONTACT BUY THE WAY

Those damn "fuel efficent cars" are not worth it. It costs more to run one of them it does a truck over a ten year period. Plus, it's only a 4 banger with no balls, no seating or leg room, and is NOT MADE IN THE USA. Jap shit anyway.
I have an F-250. Wont buy anything smaller than a supercab longbed. Diesels are the greatist engines available,Especially Powerstroke, more efficent than gas engines, and give off a nice oily smell which I love. Smells like steak to me! Can't beat it. Not being sarcastic either.

the new 08' f450 is @#$%%^^ great i live in australia an we only get the f250 and f350 xlt on the market coz people sook about them being to big.So yes i'm jealous that you guys can even get them.

I live on a 200 or so acre farm with the rest of my family. I have a crew cab f350 with a triton V10. It hasn't broken down or had any problems at all. I live in Connecticut so sorry if I need to drive it through the populated streets towing a cattle trailer.
This F450 is a completely amazing truck that I may end up getting. It is defiantly not for hauling just people, so that's why I have an 8-passenger E150 van for the family. Thinking about it, it gets worse mpg than this truck and (being gas) is worse for the o-zone and the environment. So even if this truck were just for people, it still would be better for the world than a passenger van.
Oh, and also to those who say that Europe gets by without these trucks, were in America, not Europe. Our parking spaces are bigger than a refrigerator and we like to have cars that will last for over a decade. My 350 can haul as much as two European trucks, which means I only have to run half of the engines to move what I want.
As for those of you who are considering a Chevy or a dodge instead, I’ll let you decide, but I’ve been cross-country a few times and saw more overheated Chevy’s than any car out there.
And to Mr. King Ranch Crusher: these things are far more safer than any of your sedans. I see what you mean about the weight being more dangerous when you crash into something that doesn't move (like a boulder), but if the DRIVER is incapable of handling a rig like this, then they shouldn't buy it. The safety in these trucks is when you ram head on into a drunk in your lane. With another 2000 lbs on your side and a sturdy frame, you are going to be the survivor.
As for those of you who say that this truck is a waste of money that could be going to a charity, than I suggest you try farming without a full size truck. Tell me how it goes.
As for gas prices, this will definitely not be the cheapest truck to run, but it also makes you money. I use my F350 to haul cows and pigs to the slaughterhouse so I have beef and pork that I don't have to pay for at the store. My 350 pulls trailers full of hay to people that pay me for the hay.
No matter what the gas prices are, or how harmful the emissions are, some people really do need a truck of this caliber

oh and one more thing. this truck is absoutly beautiful.

as far as i am concerned everybody can driv wet ever the hell they wunna...if they wunna pay fort the gas let them...if they wunna have a big truck bi all means who gives a shit....its there own fault if they wunna pay for something they dont tneed....

as far as i am concerned everybody can driv wet ever the hell they wunna...if they wunna pay fort the gas let them...if they wunna have a big truck bi all means who gives a shit....its there own fault if they wunna pay for something they dont tneed....